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Hi Steve
I read you post on a different thread about your Britte Barreled Actions.
I have a rather spiffy Belgian no namer Pigeon gun from around 1926
Lovely swirly root wood, Purdey 3rd,stocked to fences , bushed pins, hinged trigger...a lovely 7 1/2lb Clays Gun.
I had Abe Chaber inspect it before purchase, & after he gave thumbs up, he found the Britte Mark on the locks...
My bbls are marked "unc HY Andrew..Toledo Steel Works, Shefield England"
Ever hear of Mr Andrew or his Toledo Steel Works?
No one else has so far.
I'm a Brit, but some of those good Belgian Guns seem rather nice to me.
Cheers
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Franc,
Andrew Jno. Hy. & Co. Ltd. Toledo steel works, Sheffield England.
They are listed under hammers in an 1895 source as an importer of goods into western Australia.
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Company name was John H Andrews. (Hy = Henry??) Their records (1892-1926) are in the UK National Archives. See under J.H Andrews on link http://www.a2a.org.uk/about/contributors/1448-list.asp.I'm currently reading SDH's "Double Guns & Custom etc." - a great read! Rs K.
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Jules Bury, L Christophe , etc are often marked with the H Y Andrew Toledo marks. These are very fine guns, so must have been a very good steel. Every once in a while, the British auctions have guns marked this way. I do think, but cannot remember specifics, that I have seen British guns at auction with this steel, too. The L Christophe gun I have , with these barrels, is from the 1950s. This does not mean the barrels were made in that vintage, though.
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Franc, Nope, never heard... and my brld actions are not marked Britte anywhere except recent importers marks. Some of the barrels were marked Seiman - Martin(sp?) with the proprietary brazing method, I don''t have herre adn the ones I do are marked with a tear drop, acier (I believe means steel), birds head symbol COMPRIME, cap, J.F.,and another teardrop. None of which I don't understand. Don't know of any English connnection with the Belgian metal, but I'm sure interested in any further understanding. The Britte metalwork is exceptional quality! By golly Pete, you are a marvel of information! Kerryman, Thanks for the addition, I'm glad you are enjoying the books! Daryl, you squeezed in there when I was posting, Jules Bury is known to be one of the firms that bought metalwork from Britte, and Griffin & Howe is now marketing the same metalwork I have as finished guns under the Jules Bury name. Does your gunlock have the same pin placement as these? (Good to see you and Ann on Sunday! I wish I had shot your Dickson even if it was too long.) Best, Steve 
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Kerryman, I can't seem to get the National Archive link to come up . Can you give another address for J H Andrews ? Thanks
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John Henry Andrew & Company, began circa 1860 and had all types of cutlery and apparently made tubes. JHA & Co. and "Safety Steel" along with an arm Dexter in Armour embowed holding a large knife were his logos. There was a thread I think about 1 year ago on the topic. Let me see if I can find my note on the topic.
Kind Regards,
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Here's some info, http://books.google.com/books?id=0L4HAAA...1&ct=result , but not what I was looking for. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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Daryl H, Agreed, link does not work... the "troubleshooting" page on the A2A site says direct page links will not work.... On Google type Toledo steel works Sheffield and the link to A2A site (Kelham Island Indus. Museum) will be in the initial mentions. Google Books site has an online book on "Sheffield Steel and America" on page 109/110 of which it states "The 1920's witnessed the demise of the American tool steel trade of J.H. Andrew & Co. Ltd. Founded about 1870, the firm had built up an important US business before 1914, specialising in tool steel, steel wire rods and mining steel. It was said that most of the cables used in American suspension bridges were manufactured at Andrew's Toledo Works." ........ Their New York agent Charles Newman is quoted as saying that the War brought great changes, UK exporters were debarred from exporting and a great number of American firms grew to fill the void. That link is http://books.google.ie/books?id=Nfk8AAAA...esult#PPA110,M1The company closed in 1971 after several changes of ownership. Rs K.
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