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Steven,...please see the article by Roger Sanger & Steve Helsley
"Gold For a No-Name Gun"....page 144 Nov/Dec 2007 edition of Shooting Sporstman
That's where I read about the " Meister Gun" theory
CJ
The taste of poor quality lingers long after the cheap price is forgotten.........
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My Photo of the Two Guns that Rev d Drew has posted to this Very Interesting Thread for me, is of a "Masquellier 12b O/U, Ejector, Double Trigger, Auto Safety, 70mm Chambers,Shortarse Barrels.Weight 6.1/2.Lbs. I dont remember the Engravers name that was cut into the trigger-plate alongside the trigger blade slots.But it also said "Built for King Leopold of Belgium". The gun came into my W/Shop back in'Aprox 1971'I was told it was purchased from the Sale of the 'Tons of Loot' that was sold in March of 1953 at the Sale of King Farouks Stuff'. The Gent who brought it, shot Pigeons in Monte Carlo, Madrid,Louisiana,then at his 'Local Ring' in Indianapolis Ind.(Thats his Purdey 12b Pigeon Gun in the Photo also. If I'm not mistaken it was the first JP&S Ken Hunt Engraved with something other than 'English Scroll")Note the Pachmayer Pigeon Recoil Pad on the Butt-End of the "O/U"..I had to cut 3/4" off the stock and fit a pad as the "Then Owner" who had purchased the gun from Mr "Pigeon Shooter"(Started Trap & Field Mag in Indi-Town)Who had had More than enough" Kropp'Kicked outta him by this Mean-Kickin S.O.B..I owned the gun and attempted to kill "Box-Birds" in the Ring,Doves in the Cattle feeder,Squirrels sitting on limbs of trees.....It was the most uncomfortable Assemblage of Steel & French Walnut that I, and the previous 2 owners had ever shot 2.3/4",1.1/4oz Pigeon Loads out of....Beautiful to look at, Sensuous to put your face onto, Exciting to touch with the "Tip of your Finger"...But a "[censored]".....Always wondered why the "King" Dumped "Her"..Last I heard, "She" was in New Mexico. When I Pulled' the Masquellier down in the Workshop, It was built and Finished just as well as the Best London Guns & Rifles that I had had the pleasure of working with(And Making}..But why it delivered so much Punishment to the Shoulder???Maybe it just did'nt like Englishmen????..CC/dt
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Here, from http://lucianomastrascusa.wordpress.com/bang/ which DGM found and listed in another post.   This was partly Italian and French, so I may have gotten confused along the way...
Shotgun hammerless 12ga marked Thirifays, model Super 1000, of 1928. The gun used from the Italian shooters to the Olympic Games of 1924 in Paris. The famous Baron De Coubertin, that was one of “the important is to participate”. Draft of a shocking one giustapposto is seemed exited now or from the factory with inlays in gold on lever, trigger and on the barrel. I enclose you some photo and a short analysis of the proofs (in French).
THIRIFAYS & Co, 190 rue Vivegnis, in Liege are registered with the proof house of Liege 1902 to 1906. They held two patents for a safety and a lever(?).
From 1906 to 1913 THIRIFAYS François alone. IN 1913 to 1914 he joins THIRIFAYS Frederic.
After the Great War, THIRIFAYS François takes again his armurières activities of 1926 with 1937, 11 rue des Célestines, LIEGE.
THIRIFAYS Charles continues 1937 to 1948.
Daryl, Your gun also has Falla barrels. Pete
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SDH....I believe Abe Chaber found the "Britte" mark..not sure what it is exactly ..when he took the locks off ..and found it under the mainspring , after taking it out to polish/clean up a small bit of rust.
What was the Britte stamp/mark?
cheers lads
Franc
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SDH....I believe Abe Chaber found the "Britte" mark..not sure what it is exactly ..when he took the locks off ..and found it under the mainspring , after taking it out to polish/clean up a small bit of rust.
What was the Britte stamp/mark?
cheers lads
Franc
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Britte registered an E (small) coupled with a large "B". Though I have never seen an example.
Pete
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Would you say (EB) was for Etablissments Britte? I'd like to see an image also. Theophile & Lambert, maybe with a brother-in-law, had to have a gunshop prior to 1896, when some sources including the Britte Company give as the beginning: http://www.britte.be/UK/presentation_historique.asp . Other info suggests that the engineering firm began in 1897. Maybe there were 2 entities? But at any rate the state of Belgium at the Great Depression made them decide to concentrate their efforts toward engineering and look where they are today. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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I don't recall seeing any such mark, and I was intimately familiar, hand polishing most surfaces to 600.
thanks,
Steve
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