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The terms changed based on country and era. Translations sometimes got mixed up. Twist in England became Laminated in Belgium which was called something else in Italy. Towards the end of the damascus era, more tended to the Belgian names, but not always.

Also the names of certain patterns got changed based on the customer. Who in Italy or England is going to buy a pattern called Boston? About the only named pattern that stayed the same across time and place was Bernard.

Also, many guns were being sold that were completely browned or blackened. Did they care? Gun pricing changed based on the pattern.

But all this is far from the subject of Daly.

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Originally Posted By: PeteM

While in England he met J.P. Clabrough in 1877. Eventually, he purchased a controlling share in Clabrough's San Francisco business. William moved his family there. A Golcher ran the business until 1949.



Clabrough & Golcher Ad/info 1891 -
http://books.google.com/books?id=NEFDAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA98&dq=golcher&lr=#PPA98,M1

William Golcher - 1886 -
http://books.google.com/books?id=b2ETAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA544&dq=golcher&lr=#PPA544,M1

John Golcher & late 18th Century Penn-German connection - 1908 -
http://books.google.com/books?id=XD07AAAAIAAJ&pg=RA2-PA7&dq=golcher&lr=#PRA2-PA7,M1

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I have a great deal of confidence in the probability that the "H.KLT" initials were administered by either August Heinrich Klett of Suhl or Heinrich Christoph Keltt of Zella St. Blasii who stayed deep in tube making until the late 1920s with the addition of "Sohne" to the title with Heinrich Louis Klett who migrated to stocking. True Lindner's stamp of approval isn't there, but the components seem to have been sourced from the same craftsmen. H.A. Lindner may have been the go-between or brokered the deal for Golcher to obtain the components. The U.S. of A. was the market; the craftsmen of Suhl, or Zella St. Blasii & Mehlis, possessed the talent and H.A. Lindner was valve by which the product and funds could flow. Some sources give that Lindner may have made very few of his products. If this example is void of any Lindner marks it may very well support that theory and it is the model in Lindner's mind coupled with the capability of the craftsmen in Suhl that allowed for the end product. Lindner's stamp could be viewed as a seal of approval as well as a tracking system for being paid. So the treasure that all Lindner aficionados long for is actually a product of the craftsmen of the cottage industry of Suhl, including Zella St. Blasii and Mehlis, with H.A. Lindner as the conductor. But, but the conundrum herein lies with the Klett stamp on the watertable of this example only.

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The "C" may be an overstamp from an attempt with a "C.KL." stamp/die for Christoph/Christian Klett, who was with the firm Chr. Klett and Sohne which implies that at some point his son entered the trade as tradition and changed the name, as tradition also, to include his son. The dies could have been mixed and it could be one of Heinrich's early products.

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Not sure if this is a Lindner Daly, but it is a Daly hammergun. Unusual "Laminated" barrel material.










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I'm positive, until proven wrong, that it is a Georg Lindner sourced Daly double as the same network of folks are shown as being compenstated for their contribution of craftsmanship to the end product. I don't think Daly had any other contacts in Suhl but Georg Lindner, who held the keys to the network of superb craftsmen.

There's an initial or set of initials ahead of the non-standard Heinrich August Lindner forend lug which looks to be a "W"? Ken probably will know, but it may have been made before H.A. took the reins.
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