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Has anyone ever seen a Pope that was unmarked?
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How would you know since there have been numerous copiers over the years. I have seen one Pope that was marked under the forearm and not on top but that is not really your question is it.
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The reason for the question is yesterday I was taking photos of a friends Scheutzen rifle. It's a Stevens 44, originaly the caliber was 32-40 now it's a .33-40 with false muzzle, it is without question a Pope barrel but his name is not on the barrel, top or bottom. 
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MICHAEL: Any chance the barrel had to be turned on a lathe after it was re bored to .33. I notice the flats looked a little larger than usual, compared to the rest of the barrel. Just a thought! GREAT LOOKING RIFLE! Warmest Regards Jerry
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Jerry, The barrel is still marked Stevens and the original caliber.
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Didn't Schalk cut the same rifling style as Pope?
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Does Pope rifling = a Pope barrel = a Pope rifle?
In any event that is about as pretty as a Stevens can get in my opinion. If she shoots like she looks, I'd not want to compete against it.
Seems like everyone and their brother has a Pope something.
I have Pope rifling in a muzzleloader barrel but I don't call it a Pope rifle.
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Yes, a rifle with a barrel made by Pope is a "Pope" Rifle.
The rifle pictured in this thread does not have Pope "Type" or Pope "Style" rifling it was made by Pope and is a Pope barrel, it's just not marked with his name and I have not seen this before.
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Then how do you know it was made by Pope? I don't understand. When Pope worked at Stevens, how many barrels did he actually make and fit to rifles personally? Brent PS. I have a couple of Badger/Stallman Sharps' and a Lilja lowwall, a Douglas Borchardt 
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You guys lost me on this one, I have a Pope barrel, I know this because it's marked H. M. Pope, and I have the Target for the barrel that's signed and dated by him. I may have a lot of other Pope stuff but it's not marked Pope. Please help, how do I know if I have Pope stuff if it's not marked Pope ?.
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