May
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Who's Online Now
4 members (Jimmy W, tut, ClapperZapper, Marks_21), 279 guests, and 6 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics38,506
Posts545,571
Members14,417
Most Online1,344
Apr 29th, 2024
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 3 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 711
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 711
There's currently a 32 Trap on the for sale board at our gun club that is advertised as almost 100% and is the original finish. I could make some phone calls and get the gents number if someone is interested. Brdslayr@clearwire.net

Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 764
Likes: 23
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 764
Likes: 23
Post deleted by GunPlumber

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,893
Likes: 110
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,893
Likes: 110
Quote:
Actually, the Winchester Model 21 was introduced in answer to the Remington Model 32.


That would be a pretty hard premiss to prove. Both guns were under development at the same time, and within the Patents and factory drawings there are both side-by-side and over/under versions of both. Throw in Winchester going belly up and being acquired by Western Cartridge Co. and the Olins; the Depression; and Remington pocket catalogues of the period that introduce the Model 32 being undated; and it getss pretty muddy.

Is there any documantation that says Winchester and Remington came to an gentelmen's agreement that one would bring out a side-by-side and the other an over/under?

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,893
Likes: 110
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,893
Likes: 110
Quote:
Actually, the Winchester Model 21 was introduced in answer to the Remington Model 32.


That would be a pretty hard premiss to prove. Both guns were under development at the same time, and within the Patents and factory drawings there are both side-by-side and over/under versions of both. Throw in Winchester going belly up and being acquired by Western Cartridge Co. and the Olins; the Depression; and Remington pocket catalogues of the period that introduce the Model 32 being undated; and it gets pretty muddy.

Is there any documantation that says Winchester and Remington came to an gentelmen's agreement that one would bring out a side-by-side and the other an over/under?

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,133
Likes: 198
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,133
Likes: 198
The Winchester 21 was being advertised in the sporting press in the fall of 1930. When was the Model 32 put on the market?

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,893
Likes: 110
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,893
Likes: 110
Both the Remington Model 32 and the Browning Superposed were reviewed in The American Rifleman during 1932

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,381
Likes: 1
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,381
Likes: 1
One with ventilated rib and Hawkins pad in condition you describe would be a 'Koh-I-Noor'. Only 5,5053 Model 32s were sold. A genuine wonder of depression era.
When "Fritzies" from Heidenheim near Ulm/Donau was looking to make something good they chose to copy legendary Remington 32. It was such an excellent design that even Fritzie could come up with nothing better. Remember this was at a time when skilled craftsmen and investment was scarce so the product had to be beyond reproach to bring success.

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,205
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 3,205
"The Winchester 21 was being advertised in the sporting press in the fall of 1930. When was the Model 32 put on the market?"

1932 to 1942.


"Only 5,5053 Model 32s were sold."

That is most surely a mistype!


Ole Cowboy
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,381
Likes: 1
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 9,381
Likes: 1
5,053. The first batch left factory in March or April of 1932.

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,133
Likes: 198
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,133
Likes: 198
That said, I doubt that the Model 21 was introduced in answer to the Model 32 if the Model 32 was introduced 1 1/2 years after the Model 21 introduction. I seem to remember seeing Model 21 blueprints dated in the early twenties.

Page 3 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6

Link Copied to Clipboard

doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2024 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.0.33-0+deb9u11+hw1 Page Time: 0.075s Queries: 35 (0.051s) Memory: 0.8484 MB (Peak: 1.8987 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-05-07 10:20:08 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS