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canvasback,

Thanks. Nice to see a sidelock diana. In the 1st picture, what is that gold numbering about?

garyg,

A "wholesale price list"? Don't see those every day for Belgian guns. Nice find.

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Hi Pete

The gold lettering is a type of cocking indicator. When both barrels are cocked the gold line points to the "L". When the first barrel is fired, it moves halfway to the "D". When the second is fired, it moves the rest of the way. BTW, it's on both sides of the receiver.

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Pete,
That is from a book titled "wholesale price list of fishing tackle and hunting outfits" put out by the H.H.Knife company,New York.

I dont know if they sold direct to the public or not.

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James,

I have never heard of an indicator like this one before. Can't figure out what the L & D stand for. You should send your pictures to Alain at LittleGun. I am sure he will end up posting them under the Pieper history / examples.

Speaking of Belgium. My friend encouraged me to start this thread. He is taking great joy in seeing all these Pieper guns that do not surface very much even in Belgium.

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Pete

I have assumed the L and the D are initials from french words. Just haven't figured the words out yet. I'll send some pictures to Alain and see what he can tell us.

I know I'm Canadian and this language thing is supposed, by government decree, to be second nature to all of us up here but I don't seem to be very good at getting with the Liberal/left wing plan.


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James & Pete

Since the rib inscription is in English, I would venture to say that the "L" is for loaded and the "D" is for discharged

JMHO

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Claudio - Just what I needed....some common sense! I was too busy thinking about what french word would fit to make the connection to the english on the rib. Thanks. I have already sent Alain a message on the subject but I strongly suspect you are correct. Thanks.

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Pete-Can you help me with the proofmarks on the Modified Diana that I posted? I've tried to decipher them using the charts but I'm not doing too well. Even just a ballpark date would help. Tell your friend, my Pieper hammergun is a very good gun.

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Hammergun,

I will do my best. We know it has to be 1892 or later because it is a modified diana. So, the rest is elimination. It does not have the diamond / rhombus with the gauge markings, they started using that in 1898. I don't see any indication of nitro proofing.

A lot of the other marks are the old fashion controller of proof marks, for which we have no information. Some of the other marks, eg N in circle, may be from the Pieper factory, indicating job codes or quality control.

How's a 6 year time span, 1892-1898? I have seen ads for the modified diana that were much later, so this is a relatively early gun. I have never seen a serial number list for these guns.

For the diana and modified diana guns, you can be sure the damascus was produced at Pieper's "Brazil works" barrel shop. Probably by some of the people in this picture.



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