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#172656 01/03/10 12:44 AM
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FYI-
The Montana state fish and game agency has proposed a total lead shot ban for shooting ANY game bird on ANY WMA in MT. The proposed regulations on the MT FWP web site can be found via this link: http://fwp.mt.gov/hunting/oppForPubCommentUGB.html

Comments are welcome from residents and non-residents. The public comment period closes on 22 Jan. 2010 at 5 PM. For further clarification, you may call the Wildlife Bureau office at 406-444-2612. To submit comments electronically, this link http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/N2CCH9R can be found under “Opportunity for Public Comment” on the Hunting home page at the http://fwp.mt.gov/ website. Written comments can be sent to: FWP – Wildlife Bureau, Attn: Public Comment, POB 200701, Helena MT 59620-0701.

Speak up now or let those old guns go silent, this is just the beginning...

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Geez, here we go again! Last time this came up. with that lunatic Ben Deeble pushing all his fraud, we beat this to death. This forum degenerated into a bunch of"experts" quoting studies and such. How many of us, besides me, actually wrote, called emailed people who could actually do anything about it? It does NO GOOD to preach to the choir......If we get a ban on lead shot, or continue to lose CRP, its because WE let it happen.

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Thanks for the reminder.

I'll make sure a bunch of like-minded wing-shooters submit appropriate comments.... We must protect the long-term interest of our sport here in the Last Best Place!

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Comments sent. Message forwarded

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Have they given any rationale for the requirement? With Montana being outside the Prairie Pothole Region, surely most of their WMA's are not waterfowl areas?

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Of course, Grouse Guy is the fellow behind this goofy thought. Don't think for a minute his "like minded" wing shooters include any of us double gun shooters.

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Daryl nailed it.."Grouse Guy" is Ben Deeble...and Larry, lets not wander off into the rationale thing again..It doesnt matter, what does matter is fighting it. Use your keystrokes to contact people who can stop it....

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LD, I'm far more likely to use my "keystrokes" to fight it in print, as in magazines read by thousands of bird hunters. But I don't believe in drooling at the mouth, or on the keyboard. I believe in presenting whatever "good science" there is to support such a ban (I have yet to see much, where upland birds are concerned) and counter it with pro-lead arguments. In other words, a balanced presentation rather than "the steel shot proponents are enviro-Nazis". I think steel loses on facts; no need to rely on emotion.

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Hello Daryl and Last Dollar:

I'm actually not behind this proposed change to the upland bird regs., though I do sympathize with it.

I've spent the last six months or so putting my father in his grave and otherwise trying to keep home and family together.

I did get the rare chance with surprisingly mild weather in Montana yesterday to swing a nice sidelock and Parker at clays yesterday, broke most of them, and left four pounds of lead on the skeet field where it belongs.

I'll try and find out more this week about where the proposal did come from.

Riding towards the sound of cannon,
Ben

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with friends like Ben a double gun lover really needs no enemies...gee thanks for all your help keeping our sport alive Ben.....what an A**!


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