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CJ Dawe #185149 04/06/10 08:20 PM
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I'm not an expert on doing bluing but I would want a little higher finish on my barrels. Might be the lighting for the photo but it looks too much like a factory finish for a cheaper pumpgun than a quality rust blue for a double. It is very uniform without ripple and that is a plus reflecting good metal prep and degreasing. Might want to workout a finer grain to the rust process for doublegun types.

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Make a note about what PeteM and Daryl H. say. The first rule of restoration is "Remember what it is". Crescents are all sharp edges and crude machining. Preserve that next time.
Your efforts should be tuned to that concept.
Make every effort to "preserve the light", and keep your efforts to the same tone. If you don't, you end up with an assembly of parts, rather than a nicely refreshed item.
The barrels are finished to a different condition than the rest of the gun, and it is a mismatch to "what it is". It's OK to allow old things to look old.

Just my two cents. I know you worked hard on it. As your eye develops, you will help things return to what they "are".


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thanks for the comments guys
had no idea at all what the finish was on this one, everything was crusted/rusted with only small spots that hinted to what might have been there
i know a few old timers and collectors have told me the slightly rough finished barrels (a bit like parkerized) were considered field grade for cheaper guns, is this mis-leading me?
it doesnt show in my lousy pics, but i did leave the rough milling around the reciever.

forgot to ask so had to edit, anyone have specifics on a "chicago Long Range Wonder"
the owner gave me a "real challenge", solid rust (had a hell of a time breaking it, it was on the "junk" pile for 20-30 years) nothing works, stock is crap, splinter is missing, wil have to find hardware and make a new one and try to match it up...
but it is a 30" damascus double, he will (if i do good) put it in the office to try to sell and i gt the largest portion of price, in the meentime it will be free advertising for me to get more refinish work.

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I'm wondering about those case color's......I'm a bit suprised nobody has picked up on it...all the same it take's gut's to put yourself out there with these fella's ,I think sometime's people in the know forget we all have start somewhere.

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You mentioned the bbls were hot blued and then cold blued....hot bluing old sxs bbls could be dangerous....please make sure their integrity is intact before firing that gun.

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Originally Posted By: oldemagics
forgot to ask so had to edit, anyone have specifics on a "chicago Long Range Wonder"
the owner gave me a "real challenge", solid rust (had a hell of a time breaking it, it was on the "junk" pile for 20-30 years) nothing works, stock is crap, splinter is missing, wil have to find hardware and make a new one and try to match it up...
but it is a 30" damascus double, he will (if i do good) put it in the office to try to sell and i gt the largest portion of price, in the meentime it will be free advertising for me to get more refinish work.


That was a Sears catalog gun. Not one of their better efforts by the way. It was around for some time. They have almost no value today.

Keith, I know you are just starting down this line. I hope you view the comments so far attempts to educate.

One of the things you will learn is when to advise a customer to forget it. Few established in the trade would mess with a Crescent or a Long Range Wonder. It is good practice, I understand that. Everyone starts some where.

Don't consider it as advertising. The audience for these services is national. Do keep up the good effort. Learn as you go. There is no one way of refinishing every receiver or barrel. Make contacts with others in the trade. Many are willing to give advise.


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The Chicago Long Range Wonder was pre-A.J. Aubrey and likely Andrew Fyrberg & Sons manufactured




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considering the shape this one is in, i cannot tell if bluing is just completely gone or ifit may have been nickled at some point
any idea what it was new?

PeteM
i call it advertising for want of a better phrase, at one time, the boss was THE guy for stock work, checkering, making parts for nearly any gun (former machinist) but never slow rust or damascus.
but with the exception of hot blue, he has been staying away from refinish work because
1. his eyes are going fast to do fine work
2. being retired he is content to re-build the de-milled stuff that for the time investment pays better
we finally met after i drove by for years without noticing the sign... long story short a repair on one of my old .22s he told me how to do it, lied that work and asked if i ever considered bluing it, told him i would but couldnt afford it
"you do the prep/polish ill run it through for $20"
he thought i did pretty good on that too, and i have been doing small things as he has them since, getting more involved as i learn... so at this point i do whatever i can get my hands on either free or real cheap (still un-employed since Jul) for the experience and learn something new...
this gun will be there to show that re-finish is again available and an example


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you caught that!
yes i had to cheat and use a torch... searching for either a heat element for the oven i got, or find a belt for my forge so i can use the crucible


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sorry if i came off being wise-ass about leaving the rough milling, and thanks for poiinting out "Make a note about what PeteM and Daryl H. say."
i "know" only a small handfull of guns, but seem to be listening to too many different people trying to sort out what is right as i go...
pheeew, i usually dont type this much at a time!

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