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Thank you for your explanation, Jani.
Good night.
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This gun was proofed in Liege in 1927. You may be interested to know that GECO is the abbreviation of Gustav Genschow & Co. founded 1912, former manufacturer of pistol and revolver cartridges. I believe this Berlin firm was put out of business by the Nazis. Today, they are a subsidiary. http://www.genschow.com/English/Firma_e/firma_e.htmPete
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Here are pictures of the proof mark,     The last picture was proof mark of the Belgian shotgun, which looks like mine. Maybe my gun was for export? Skeettx gun has the similar proof mark, Is it Belgium? Mike Thanks, Mario
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Mario: You didn't get many more winks(sleep) than I did!!! And there again is that "Y" and the horseshoe, so I'd guess those were Romanian? At a minimum the longarm was sourced in "in the white" from Liege and looking at the worn marks on the water table, it appears some finishing effort was applied in the country that uses the "Y" and horseshoe stamps. In what country did you locate it?  Previous Puzzle Current Puzzle. Same trouble-maker letter of a date stamp. I'd venture to say that some of the Belgian proofmarks were "erased" and the "Y1" and horseshoe stamps. Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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I'm from the Croatia, Eastern Europe. Eastern neighbor of Slovenia (Jani) I agree with you Raimey, "Y" and horseshoe stamps are probably from the Kingdom of Slovenes, Croats and Serbs, or it is some Yugoslavian marks(Y). With us the government replaced very quickly. Will you guys compare the following pictures, with my gun. style, engraving, .. it looks the same except sideplate which is completely different,(nicer) than mine.      And other pictures of barrel,etc,.. looks like the same gun, zoom engraving. Thanks, Mario.
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This gun was proofed in Belgium. I believe it was proofed in 1954. But it is missing proof marks. I think Raimey is correct. The cold war was heating up. It could have found it's way into a country that did not recognise the Brussels Convention and was reproofed there. Hopefully, Geno or Jani can jump in here. I have nothing on those Y and U marks. Pete
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I totally agree with you Pete, Thanks. but look at this picture that I sent by Raimey From Dr. Drew Hause's site:http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17575181 Post 1924 Dumoulin Lambert" has a very similar date code stamp with the same spangled "x" controller's mark. Drew gives 1928. Raimey showed it to me in previous posts. Maybe a small letter "g", from: [url=http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.html][/url] , then it should be 1928, if not mistaken. Thank you very much for your efforts, I appreciate it.  Here's another picture to compare, I do not want to be boring. The gun in the picture is the same Dumoulin manufacturer.   Me, really looks the same.
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I totally agree with you Pete, Thanks. but look at this picture that I sent by Raimey ... From Dr. Drew Hause's site:http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/17575181 from .. http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.htmlthen it should be 1928, if not mistaken. Thank you very much for your efforts, I appreciate it. You are in part quoting my own site to me..... Start with the controller of proof mark Star over X. That sets the possible span of years. Is the mark of the Controller of Proof, Alfred Reignier, who worked at the proof house 1937 to 1964. So throw out all the 1920's dates. The year code is not H or G. It is the Greek letter lambda. That falls during the working life of Alfred Reignier. Lambda is the year code for 1954. It is also during the cold war. None of your 1920's date meet all that criteria either. Pete
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Thanks Pete, I read this forum about a year and a half to learn something, I'm not expert but with you guys I loved Double guns.
What do you say to a comparative picture, it looks the same except sideplate which is completely different than mine. I want your opinion.
Please enlarge and compare them.
I can send some pictures if necessary, everything else looks the same.
Thanks, Mario.
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I've starred at it for some time and can't say what it is. I've penned Lambada many, many times and it never resembled that. But accessory info will validate the time period as PeteM has researched and noted. Here are a few variants:  copy & paste http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greek_cursive_variants_Lambda.svg Previous Puzzle Current Puzzle.  Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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