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StormsGSP, if you decide to pass on the Parker please let me know where it is. I'd like to have a look at it.

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I'm thinking of disabling the ejectors on my 80% original Skeet Gun: Will that make it a VH?

Investigation continues. EDM


OMG Ed, DON'T DO THAT! As you know, you'd destroy the gun's originality and any collector value---you'll never be able to sleep at night. wink


When in doubt, do nothing, is a good policy. So I'll leave it alone. But I have noticed on my Parker C-grade SBT and on every other Parker SBT that I have handled that the factory standard single ejector is disabled.

Someone else posted that he works around the ejector feature by trying to cover and catch the shells with his hand so they don't go ejecting hither and yon. This is sort of like solving a self-inflicted problem such like wearing a helmet when you beat yourself on the head with a hammer.

Here I thought we were talking about a dedicated skeet gun (or trap like my SBT, or sporting clays, or a live bird gun for that matter), where rapid second loading is not part of the game. I can see where those who prefer fast action shooting at ducks and upland game birds might think ejectors increase their bag, but so would an automatic or pump if filling the air with lead was the goal.

It has been my experience that my GH "Old Reliable" would not do any better for me if I could rapidly eject shells and reload in a split second sooner. But that's just me. One of my first DGJ articles 15 years ago was in praise of extractors. I hunt my own farms and the last thing I want is plastic shells with a 500-year half-life scattered all over my property. Likewise in the duck blind; chasing around in the swamp after empties is not my thing.

Actually the only instance where I saw any use for ejectors was in the live-bird pigeon ring, where a single shooter stands to the mark, calls Pull! Bang! Bang! And then tries to hit the spent-shell barrel with his ejected empties. The idea was that if you lost your bird but hit the barrel with both shells it was some consolation; miss the barrel and it gives the bird boys something to do. EDM


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I'm thinking of disabling the ejectors on my 80% original Skeet Gun: Will that make it a VH?

Investigation continues. EDM


OMG Ed, DON'T DO THAT! As you know, you'd destroy the gun's originality and any collector value---you'll never be able to sleep at night. wink


When in doubt, do nothing, is a good policy. So I'll leave it alone. But I have noticed on my Parker C-grade SBT and on every other Parker SBT that I have handled that the factory standard single ejector is disabled.
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I'm not entirely sure that was a serious warning, and the "winking smiley" adds support to that conclusion. If you remove the required parts to disable the ejectors and keep them safe for later re-installation, who cares? You have not altered the gun in any way provided that you don't damage screws, etc. I don't own an ejector Parker, but if I did I'd disable the ejectors right after I verified that they were working properly, and keep the parts in a safe place properly labeled. I have one ejector gun, a Browning O/U, and I have perfected the hand-catch method, but what's the point of having ejectors if you don't want the shells thrown out on the ground? I like the idea that ejectors add value to a vintage gun, but personally I'd rather have that value added in the form of a higher Grade or Condition.

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Any experienced shooter has long ago learned to catch empties without it becoming a chore. Working ejectors put the shells into the hand without having to pick them out. By the way, Ed has shot at my pigeon club where gentlemen deposit their empties, two at a time, into the proper receptacle, by hand. It seems to be a matter of courtesy, which I have also seen on the International Skeet field. Not all shooters participate, but it is refreshing to see such behavior.

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Jim, I agree with you about holding your hand over the gun to catch the empties. I used a 20 ga. Winchester 101 and a 28 ga. Beretta BL-4 for my skeet guns and never had a problem cupping the ejectors.
I do the same in the field with all my ejector guns.


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Ed has shot at my pigeon club where gentlemen deposit their empties, two at a time, into the proper receptacle, by hand.


True story. I was using my GH then. The "hitting the barrel" story was from DogWood, and while I was still owning and shooting my DHE Trap (which Destry relieved me of).

An addendum to disabling ejectors and using them as extractors, my ca.1896 BH had retro-ejectors installed for some dumb reason in the 1950s, which never worked properly (per letter provenance), and were disabled when I bought the gun in 1996. Ejectors operating as extractors have too little travel to present the spent shell properly (based on the BH instance). Whether this is endemic to all Parker ejectors, or just those installed by Lefever of NY on referral from Remington just before DelGrego got involved is problematical. It seemed to me at the time that the easy fix would have been to braze a slight extension on the end of the rod that pushes the shell when the gun opens. Destry bought the gun and I think he made the fix... EDM


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The DHE Trap is breaking clays for somebody else these days. It magically turned into a 34 inch DHE, straight grip, splinter, double triggers, on a #3 frame.

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