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First a C&R FFL,or any FFL can be verified if necessary by a simple call to the licensing center in Atlanta.I have done it when sent a pawn FFL that was used as a transfer agent for my buyer,takes less then 5 mins.

Next there is no requirement for a FFL to be involved on the sender end,just the receivers.

And yes the FFL can put whatever requirement he wants-"all C&R's must sent in purple envelopes wrapped around a 10 oz silver bar",but it should be done BEFORE any transaction is completed.

Its the additional made up rules after the deal has been made that are the issue.

When they are selling me a gun I've never had a dealer with an FFL refuse to sell me a qualifying firearm on my CC&R. Maybe doubles just aren't that easy to sell and they don't want to lose the money they will generate on my transaction.

Transfers may be a different story.

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"And yes the FFL can put whatever requirement he wants-"all C&R's must sent in purple envelopes wrapped around a 10 oz silver bar",but it should be done BEFORE any transaction is completed"

We call this GREED in my location. I've noticed this phenomenon much more frequently since "Slick Willie" forced the BATF to really clamp down on the type 1 FFL holders causing a huge reduction in numbers.
Jim

Probably really freek him out if you'd have sent him an 02FFL..

An earlier poster said it best when he stated that an FFL can add all the extra precautions that he wants. Like it or not, it is up to the FFL to protect his license and business.

My favorite dealer just changed policy where they no longer accept incoming firearms from a non-FFL. I think some of this is cautionary, I think some of it has to do with the Gunbroker, Guns International, etc. sales that they may feel is cutting in on their own business. The time spent transferring that firearm that you bought from someone else takes time away from their own business. After all, it is a business.

As far as the C&R license, it is not an FFL. A C&R license allows you to collect for your own use, not to act as a go between or dealer.

In general, a firearm is considered a C&R if it is 50 years or older. It does not have to be on the published list. If it was originally manufactured in or before March of 1961, it is a C&R based on it's age. And yes, ATF does stay on top of what is and is not.

Antique applies to originally manufactured in or before 1898.

If you fix guns for profit, refinish a stock or re-blue a gun for profit, mount a scope for profit, etc., You have to have an FFL.

I would assume that a person could wish to receive only guns from FFLs in case the gun is determined to be stolen. He would then have someone to take responsibility.

EightBore when my FFL receives a gun from a non FFL they require the non-FFL to email a copy of his driver's license. They say they do that to give ME recourse in case the gun is stolen.

Best,

Mike

What's wrong with just buying it out of the trunk of someone's car? No FFL, No C&R, No nothin!!!

uhh a C&R is not an FFL??? News to me mine says it is.Its a 03 FFL for collecting and disposing of guns that are either on the list or over 50 yrs old.

These few dealers that want to put extra hoops to jump through to receive a gun for transfer would be more then happy to steal that double from your widow with no info from her at all !

Oh, Boy! See the penalties section of the 1968 Gun Control Act. Don't believe the rumor that the ATF boys don't care as long as its just an old doublegun. 'Low hanging fruit' and a quick plea deal with an embarrassed and anguished 'solid citizen' make the agent look better at his next annual review!

Actually, in Georgia at least, there's nothing wrong with doing just what you described as long as you and the guy with the gun in his trunk are both State residents. Its called the 'gun show loophole'...Geo