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Dave is right. A C&R License is an 03 FFL Here is what mine says in opening: Jim
Dear Licensee: Enclosed you will find your Federal Firearms License.----------
The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.
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Yes, it is a Class 03 FFL.
What I meant and the point being is it does not allow you to engage in the buying and selling of firearms as a business.
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[quote=Dave K]First a C&R FFL,or any FFL can be verified if necessary by a simple call to the licensing center in Atlanta.---- quote] https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/Why make a phone call when you can check it on line ?
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Only the 01's are available on line,not the 03's.
That was in response the post by
Pre13-LC COLL: "One of the reasons many FFLs will not accept a C&R is due to the fact that C&R's cannot be verified through the FFLez site. My FFL holder uses that everytime before they will ship a gun to another FFL."
If thats his reason for not accepting a C&R (and his money)then his FFL is just lazy or ignorant or both ! What did he do before the 01's where online?
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My FFL will accept a C&R. They do however check every FFL through the FFLez site though. They shipped a gun to a FFL holder who had faxed them a copy, which is perfectly legal. However, the receiving FFL holder had been suspended pending an investigation. From that point on my FFL decided to verify every one of them. 30 seconds online beats the hell out of a month worth of hassle with BATFE.
My FFL is the one that told me he knows several other FFL holders that will not do C&Rs because they can't check them online. Especially on the weekends at gun shows when the Atlanta office is closed.
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"My FFL is the one that told me he knows several other FFL holders that will not do C&Rs because they can't check them online."
????? makes NO sense-they will not pick up a phone-to call ATF if they want a FFL check,but they will then have to call for a NICS check to run it as a 4473 transfer???
A dealer,any business, can do whatever he wants,but so can his customers !Lots of sellers happy to follow the rules and take a 03 FFL no need to deal with the ones that don't-they won't be around long anyway.
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????? makes NO sense-they will not pick up a phone-to call ATF if they want a FFL check,but they will then have to call for a NICS check to run it as a 4473 transfer???
A dealer,any business, can do whatever he wants,but so can his customers !Lots of sellers happy to follow the rules and take a 03 FFL no need to deal with the ones that don't-they won't be around long anyway. Dave, I think the main reason was that they could not verify them on the weekends when they were at gunshows and the Atlanta office is obviously closed. I'm not defending their poor business practices or ignorance of the BATFE Regulations. It's their business to lose. Just passing on what was explained to me.
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https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck/Why make a phone call when you can check it on line ? [/quote] If you click on that link this is taken directly from it: FFL eZ Check does not validate Type 03 (Collectors of Curios and Relics) and Type 06 (Manufacturer of Ammunition) licenses. All attempts to check the validity of Type 03 and Type 06 licenses will result in an error message, even though the licenses may be valid. An FFL should not use this error message as reason to deny dealing with a Type 03 licensee.
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Guess Mr. Dudley can go ahead with the deal now. The fellow says he will deal with CC&R FFL holders now.
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"I'm not defending their poor business practices or ignorance of the BATFE Regulations. It's their business to lose. Just passing on what was explained to me."
I know that,didn't mean to sound like I was criticizing you Pre 13-if so I apologize.The 01 dealer who feels they are not valid as you can find them on line, is the one I was referring to.
"Guess Mr. Dudley can go ahead with the deal now. The fellow says he will deal with CC&R FFL holders now."
One down,goodness knows how many more to go !
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