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As for making a Savage 1899 in .22 High Power work, there are tricks to accomplishing that. I have played with it to the point of exhaustion and finally mastered it. It is now one of my most pleasurable rifles to shoot with. PM me if you have questions. I don't wish to hijack this thread!
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As for making a Savage 1899 in .22 High Power work, there are tricks to accomplishing that. I have played with it to the point of exhaustion and finally mastered it. It is now one of my most pleasurable rifles to shoot with. PM me if you have questions. I don't wish to hijack this thread! The 99 part of the thread has about run the course so fire away.
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I doubt that are enough ,22 High Powers still being used it matter much anyway. They are basically a small historical blip on the great success of the fine Model 99, and should be put in the "show and tell" category.
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I'd like to hear more about that "flapdoodle"!
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Neat cartridge, a friend and board member has a lovely little Webely long bar double rifle retailed by Manton in the mighty .22 HP. Maybe he will post pictures......
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FYI, the 22 HP in Europe is the 5.6x52R. When I was collecting Savage 1899's I had a nice little H model that I took to Montana and shot a nice Pronghorn with it. The goat was about 100 yards. There are the pics in old Savage ads of hunting Tigers with the 22 HP. (I am not recommending this just stating info)
The hard part of shooting it today is that the bullet is 228/229 diameter and I do not know if anyone is making it now.
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Now THAT would trip my trigger! Savage really screwed up the .22HP's chances for success by offering it only in lightweight little carbines, and marketing it as primarily a big game cartridge. Insisting on using a relatively slow rate of twist with a relatively long bullet didn't help it's versatility either. I feel that since it was the only high velocity .22 centerfire caliber offered in a factory rifle in the pre-WWI era those mistakes made by Savage only served to guarantee that future generations of .22 CFs would not be of .228" diameter. To make it work one must A) realize it's shortcomings (ie: relegate it to varmints, and deer-sized animals at relatively close range, and B) find a way to get around the slow (1-12") twist of the Savage rifles with currently available bullets. The 70gr. .228" bullets commonly available in the U.S. (Hornadys) are too long to stabilize properly which leads many to give up after getting mediocre accuracy. I made up a file trim die to shorten them appreciably and groups went from being "patterns" to being "bragable". A good bullet mold in the correct diameter is another way around it. The 70 gr. jacketed offerings in the past from the likes of Sisk and Speer were blunt and hence short enough to stabilize well which equals good accuracy. Sadly, they are long gone (But enough turn up from time to time to keep me going, and cause the deer to tremble at my approach! )
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That's White on the right with his Wundhammer, I'm not sure if that him on the left with the 99.
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Considering the hat, I would say it is.
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Michael, Pics are great. 2 observations: first the brim of the hat looks very similar in all pics. Second and far more important is that very few 1899's had slings. SEW's did, the one in the pics have a sling. In addition the gun in the pic has side panel checkering in my opinion and that again was a special issue. I also has a tang sight which is just noted not special consideration.
Is the springfield the one that was stolen?
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