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Wow guys, I've never learned so much on a single thread, THANKS!

I appreciate your effort, and kind words.

I had a heck of a time accessing the 1910 catalogue, but did succede, and I agree the 6RE-E does seem the closest model at that time. It would be fantastic to find the info in a correct year catalogue.

I do have more questions now:

- did all higher grade guns use the Anson push-rod forend release instead of the framilair Ideal lever?

- do these guns show up in original leather case often (this one did)?

- Is there a grade or designation (E - Excelsior??) which correlates with the absence of through hole for lug in bottom of receiver?

Thanks again!

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I can only add my congratulations and best wishes for many satisfying years of stewardship of such an example of exquisite, functional art. What does it weigh? For me, it would be perfection indeed if it were a 16.

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Originally Posted By: Mark Dube
I do have more questions now:

- did all higher grade guns use the Anson push-rod forend release instead of the framilair Ideal lever?

- do these guns show up in original leather case often (this one did)?

- Is there a grade or designation (E - Excelsior??) which correlates with the absence of through hole for lug in bottom of receiver?

Mark


Mark it is my belief that use of the Anson push-rod forend was limited to the Ideal Ejector guns, that has been my observation. We have some very knowledgable folks on this thread perhaps they can confirm or debunk my opinion.

They generally came in a rather plain Leg of Mutton Case - it is nice you have the case - could we see some photos of it ?

I have examined one lower Grade Ideal that did not have the exposed barrel lug in the bottom of the receiver. So I don't believe this feature was restricted to high grade guns.

There are me varations in the features of Ideals.

Now LeFusil, JayCee, and Wildcattle know about 10 times as much about them as I do, so take my opinions above with a grain of salt.


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As Poastoak says, push-rod forend is limited to ejector guns, as far as I know.

My lowly 16 bore Idéal does not have an exposed barrel lug and is definitely not an Excelsior:


Geno, thanks for the photos.

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My old Ideal 12 Gauge No6R



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Hello Postoak,

I can only see a frog in an ice cube (?)

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JC, I don't think the French really appreciate being referred to as frogs laugh
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Oops!

Good one Rockdoc! smile

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Thanks again guys!

Roy, it shoots great, dimensions near perfect for me, the hardened old recoil pad is slippery though, it will work better for me when that is replaced.

Postoak, it makes perfect sense that the Anson "push bitton" forend release be utilized on ejector guns, the lever would be in the same place as the ejector works.

Geno, JC, postoak, beautiful guns, thanks for sharing.


Here are a few (poor) photos of the case, sorry they are taken with phone not a quality camera.

One of the labels on the exterior is dated 1945 and is for checked luggage on the CNR (Canadian National Railway)and it is direcly on top of 2 or 3 other identical lables.

The other label is name and adress of a gentleman in Calgary Alberta.

Notice how the muzzles fit in the leather cup hinged to the frame of the case.







Mark

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