Oh yea, well, how about this one Mike??? smile
"In 1872, Selous paid 6 pounds each for a pair of smooth bore "duck guns" by Isaac Hollis of Birmingham. And with these he killed 78 elephants over the next three seasons."
Or this one;
"We soon came upon two cows (elephant?) and fired together hitting one hard the other was a very long shot with the second barrel of the Westley Richards' rifle"; entries by WC Baldwin as of April 10th, 1854.

I can go on if you want, lots more entries about the old English makers in those African hunting journals that I have.

Let's see now, where's the Hartmann & Weiss, where's the Boxall & Edminston? Where's all these other makers that have been named throughout this post? I can't seem to find those names anywhere. Oh, that's right, they haven't even been born yet. Wait a minute, on second thought, even their Fathers and their Grandfathers haven't been born yet!!!