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Model 37...


And a close up of a dog on one of my Model 37's...




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My apoligies Joe. Yes I thought you were saying that Deeley & Edge didn't design their forend latch until 1910 & I knew that was way off. I can see now how you meant it, I just didn't read it that way.


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Here is a top of the line Model 97, first year of production. The gentleman that owns it was kind enough to send his pictures. He resides in Sweden. The most unlikely owner I have heard from was located in Thailand.





I purchased John Mann's model 97 from him a few years ago.

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This Model 97 is another example. The serial number puts it in the 1st year of production, 1905-1906. However, the patent date on the rib suggests it either was made out of sequence or it was sent back and given a new set of barrels. So many questions...

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Yep Joe S, that's what my right lockplate looks like too. Thanks for the model i.d. PeteM, or anyone else familiar with the mechanics on the Meriden : Are the firing pins supposed to be free-floating, like those on an LC Smith? I took the locks off, and found out the there was a spring between the tapering of the firing pin, and the breech.

I hope I'm not hi-jacking this thread with a technical question.

thanks, redoftx.

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Hello again Pete M. I think the frame is made erlier as the serie.nr.says but the whole gun is put together about 1908-10 or so.The patent of Fore-Stock Fastener for Firearms as this have is from 1908.
(I think there are same barrels on hammers as hammerless)Pat.date on rib is the safety.

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PeteM, What's a top model AJ Aubrey worth?
I came across one that was heavily period engraved, fine Damascus barrels, but the entire gun was covered in a patination of fine rust. He wanted $700.00, which I felt was much too high.
I didn't want the work. And I knew little about them.


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Originally Posted By: drever
Hello again Pete M. I think the frame is made erlier as the serie.nr.says but the whole gun is put together about 1908-10 or so.The patent of Fore-Stock Fastener for Firearms is from 1908.
(I think there are same barrels on hammers as hammerless)

Regards Lennart


You may be correct. I have never tried to interchange the barrels.

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PeteM, What's a top model AJ Aubrey worth?
I came across one that was heavily period engraved, fine Damascus barrels, but the entire gun was covered in a patination of fine rust. He wanted $700.00, which I felt was much too high.
I didn't want the work. And I knew little about them.


A hammer M97 or a hammerless M58 with some case coloring and in excellent condition will usually go for $1,200 or more. If it a special grade (reported but I have never even seen pictures) or a 20ga (I only know of 2 to exist currently) and the price would double or triple. For the 1st gun made (currently owned by one of the board members here) with deep relief engraving I would guess at least $5,000.

Most of the top graded guns will never come to market. At least that is my impression from countless contacts with owners. So many have been passed down through the family, they never intend to sell.

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Originally Posted By: RedofTx
Yep Joe S, that's what my right lockplate looks like too. Thanks for the model i.d. PeteM, or anyone else familiar with the mechanics on the Meriden : Are the firing pins supposed to be free-floating, like those on an LC Smith? I took the locks off, and found out the there was a spring between the tapering of the firing pin, and the breech.

I hope I'm not hi-jacking this thread with a technical question.

thanks, redoftx.


I wish I could give you a straight answer. I am not savvy enough. I believe it is free floating, but will not swear to it.

Pete

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