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Thanks, everyone. You helped me make up my mind. It's a VH, not a GH, but you still got the message and I agree.
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Stock market, dancing, chess, drill, and grenades are all about timing. Do you have to make this decision right now?
Doing nothing right now, leaves you the option of future action. If you decide to open the choke(s), that exercise does not have to be drastic - it can be incremental.
I second the offered recommendation about the use of spreader loads for closer work. The oldie 12 GA FULL & extra Full choke guns I patterned with a standard spreader reload WOULD HAVE BEEN UNUSEABLE past 20 yards as the pattern was too open and thin for ruffed grouse.
However, my oldie SxS guns with old-fashioned Full and fuller chokes are useless to me under any circumstances using my reloads with the modern one piece wads. I have opened all the chokes to some degree.
Just my $0.02 - your mileage might vary.
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Open them up if you want. Everyone makes such a big deal if the chokes get opened. Why ? You can't see it and with American guns as far as I know [ limited ] only the 1894 and 1900 Remingtons had the chokes [ number of pellets ] stamped on the barrels. I'm sure that over the years a number of guns had their chokes opened. It's your gun, do what you want with it. Paul
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However, my oldie SxS guns with old-fashioned Full and fuller chokes are useless to me under any circumstances using my reloads with the modern one piece wads. Interesting.....I reload using Gualandi one piece wads that only cover roughly 1/2 of the shot within the cup....Allowing the shot column to act just as it does in loads using "old fashioned" traditional wads therefore the patterns I am seeing are about the same at the patterning board when comparing the two wad types, Gualandi plastic versus traditional fiber, from the same gun, which is where it counts I believe...... This wad design is explained quite nicely on most of the sale sites that sell Gualandi wads, as it was designed with this purpose in mind since most European countries still shoot the antique/vintage guns without butchering the bores.... I am using these same Italian wads for my 12, 16 and 20 gauge guns......love the patterns utilizing the "old-fashioned" choking in my vintage Full and Fuller and Full and Modified choked guns.......and the birds sure go down fast and farther out if need be.......JMO......
Doug
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It is a mystery to me why someone hasn't started a niche business hammering #6 or #7 1/2 shot a bit flat on two sides and rebagging it. I would buy a few bags. I would rather pay double for shot than to worry about loading or finding spreader loads.
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Looks like you could just run over a bag of shot with your truck and it would flatten it out, if that would spread, I don't know.
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Just shoot straighter or open them up if you can't live with it. It is your gun. Do what you wish. Me, I like having some tight guns around. So, many of these old guns I run across are openned for someone to shoot grouse in what must be a telephone booth, the way they describe it. Hell, if it's that close, just grab the bird. It seems that if every vintage double passes thru the hands of a grouse hunter, there'll be no such thing as "choke" in any of them.
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It is a mystery to me why someone hasn't started a niche business hammering #6 or #7 1/2 shot a bit flat on two sides and rebagging it. I would buy a few bags. I would rather pay double for shot than to worry about loading or finding spreader loads. Hello Bill, Just buy some of the reclaimed/recycled shot from the trap and skeet club. The pellets will be mixed 7.5s and 8s and maybe some 9s and will have flat spots from hitting the targets and from running down the barrel. These pellets will spread a little better then the new ones. If you use the plastic wads with no fingers or short fingers you can get even more spread. Watch out for little rocks in the reclaimed shot. Good Shooting To You, Jent
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I have had the chokes on a few "field grade" non-collector SxS's opened up, and been very pleased with the results. These are working shotguns that I FREQUENTLY USE for hunting, sporting clays, trap and skeet.
Most of the older SxS's left the factory choked F & F. I have had the right barrel opened to IC.
This seems to me to be a good hunting combo - near and far. I can still use the FULL barrel for trap, and the IC barrel for most skeet singles shots. On the skeet doubles, I use the FULL barrel on the most distant shot. Its a good compromise solution.
JERRY
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