doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com A barrel question for the expert smiths

Restocked, out of proof, thin walls....eeek. Are the bores blown out, too?

I'm with Joe, why bother with it?

BTW: I think it's a Rogers-patent action with some Scott tweaks. There's more about the Rogers action on page 224 here:

http://books.google.com/books?id=OLwUAAA...p;q&f=false


OWD

$5k is a lot of money for a gun I wouldn't feel I could shoot until another $2k was spent. I dunno the value of the particular gun, so I can't say if it's worth it or not.

You could spend years looking for a set of suitable barrels.

I'd have to say your friend is already "upside down" in this one. I would return it if you can.

does a set of briley full length 20 ga tubes, custom fit to the barrels seem like a good, economical idea ?

Thing is they put a proof load through what the chamber is opened to......there is no reproof with a requested marshmallow load.......that would be too easy

Truth is, we need to have a person on here that has worked at a proofhouse that measures barrels for a living to give us his take. 12" from breech is a lot different from 9" from breech which is "point of proof" where bore dia is measured. Every measurement from there is from breech end forward. But if the walls are anywhere near 20 thou at 12" that's right where your hands are. My waif 2 lb 4 oz barrels on my 20 ga Boss measure 32-35 thou there and 50 thou at 9" from breech....so something is amiss here

Until someone with "the Knowledge" of Proof from UK steps up and offers his insight based on measurements of thousands of guns based on current Rules of Proof, most of this pontification here is just that... hot air

Clif. You bring up some good points. I had no idea when I made my statement the chambers had been lengthened and this was a black powder proof. Clearly, this gun is out of proof. I would be willing to bet with the lengthened chambers someone has been shooting nitro loads in this thing. Also, and I hate to bring up a sore subject, but wouldn't it be nice if we had a legit proof house here in the USA where this and other guns like it could be reproofed in a standardized fashion by a competent proofmaster??!! It sure would save some headaches for the owner of this Scott.

Whens the last time anyone from any UK proof house, formerly of or current employee of, ever posted on this board?

Call Kirk Merrington, see what he says. Something tells me he'll be on the same page as most of us here.



Dustin

I have a W C Scott Damascus barrel that the barrels seem ok to me by my measurements but you need to use your gauge.Chopper lump from a 1887 hammer gun that I would sell you it would make your deal work and of course fit.call me tomorrow if you are intrested.662 378 6169xxx is my cell I'm going to be hunting all afternoon.
Monty McGee

I'd bet a dollar to donuts he'd say the point of proof bore diameter, wall thickness at that point, wall thickness at the end of the chambers and forcing cones tell you whether you have a gun........ or not. Much more so than folks worrying about barrel thinness 6-8" from the the muzzle end, as is a common measurement as its the thinnest part of the barrel. I doubt seriously an unobstructed, nondented barrel has ever been blown out 6 inches from the end from being 18- 20 thou there.

A dollar won't buy 2 donuts most places these days. ....but I'll agree with your position.