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Bought a Lc Skeet grade with hunter single trigger. It fires the left barrel first so tried the selectoer to rt barrel first and it fires when you close the gun? Any help? Bill
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Have you pulled the stock to see if the wood has swelled and is rubbing or if it just needs a good cleaning?
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To my knowledge Bill, only 3 fellas in this country will work on HOTs, the innerds of which angels fear to tread  Freddie Brunner Escondido, Ca 760-738-8413 Abe Chaber Danbury, CT 203-748-1830 Dewey Vicknair Ephrata, Pennsylvania www.VicknairRestorations.com 717-626-4226 Nick or C.J. might Nicholas Makinson London, Ontario 519-471-5462 C.J. Opacak Toronto 416-299-4865
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Thanks guys. Will check the wood and cleaning thing before sending off. Bill
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Bill, before sending gun out, I would check three screws, take the trigger guard wood screw out, lift the trigger guard out of it's fit and rotate it out of the way. Loosen the bottom trigger plate screw to top tang 1/2 to 1 turn. Screw should be flush with metal on tang. Next look at the screw under the top lever, this screw has a slanted head and has to be turned out 1 full turn to be orientated right. Either one of these two screws if they are tight will cause tension on the HOT. Also if the side plate connecting screw (long one) is a half turn too tight it could cause the sears to touch each other.
There are not too many things that can go wrong with this trigger, there are only a few moving parts and a couple of springs. The most common problem is any one of these three screws being too tight.
Whenever taking one of these guns apart with a HOT trigger that is working, is to take careful measurements from side plate to side plate, top tang to bottom of trigger plate. It is hard to take a measurement on the one under the top lever, as this one will pull the trigger plate up very tight if not careful.
Good luck and let us know if you try this before sending it out.
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Just "shows to go-ya' Doc Drewbie- how limited that LC Smithian knowledge you profess so often might be. All these guys are master gunsmiths and Smithsmiths as well- but Jerry Andrews in West (By God) Virginia doesn't have to take a back seat to any of them. He is also a master Smithsmith and has installed or de-installed on many Smiths the HOT- both the first Lard (MarketBasket's grandpappy??) design with the selector, and the later than came out in the 1930's sans selector--
Here's my guess- if the machine screws that hold the lock plates in position are turned just a hair too snug, ditto the top and bottom tang machine screws, that can often be the cause of problems. Usually doubling- firing when you close the gun, after the selector has been moved from one barrel to the other- may be also in the sear engagement. Is this a FWE series Smith or a Standard frame- as the safety on a FW and FWE with the HOT has to be set up just a bit differently?
All my Smiths have double triggers, whether they are ejector or non-ejector versions. I have a Specialty Grade FWE 16 made in 1945 (according to the yellow hang tag anyway-by the serial number and the extra S added to the stampings- and if I use 1 oz. loads in it, it will sometimes double- the heavier recoil of that load "jars" the sears- no matter which of the two triggers I may 'select' to shoot first. But with RST 2.5" 7/8 oz. loads- No problemo-- works like a Rolex every time--
As I have a machine shop and welding background (waay different from yours and the esteemed Dr. Stumbledick (your pal)you will, no doubt, have noted that I said machine screws, which is the right nomenclature- and if I somehow seemed to have inferred a "Screw You- Dr. Drew ( I do like the slick-ass boater your wear for a chapeau though)in that phrasing, well Goool-EE Gomer!!!
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About 40 years ago I acquired a beautiful 12 gauge single trigger LC Smith that would go off when closing, or if you got it closed it would spontaneously discharge later. I took it to a gunsmith, in Berwyn IL I believe, who charged me $75 to fix it. I didn't fire it after I got it back and then later sold it to an acquaintence in Houston TX. Thankfully I'd kept the repair receipt and gave it to the guy I sold it to, because the POS later discharged both barrels while the guy was sitting in duck blind with it.
I haven't liked either LC Smiths or single triggers ever since.
Steve
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Just "shows to go-ya' Doc Drewbie- how limited that LC Smithian knowledge you profess so often might be. All these guys are master gunsmiths and Smithsmiths as well- but Jerry Andrews in West (By God) Virginia doesn't have to take a back seat to any of them. He is also a master Smithsmith and has installed or de-installed on many Smiths the HOT- both the first Lard (MarketBasket's grandpappy??) design with the selector, and the later than came out in the 1930's sans selector--
Here's my guess- if the machine screws that hold the lock plates in position are turned just a hair too snug, ditto the top and bottom tang machine screws, that can often be the cause of problems. Usually doubling- firing when you close the gun, after the selector has been moved from one barrel to the other- may be also in the sear engagement. Is this a FWE series Smith or a Standard frame- as the safety on a FW and FWE with the HOT has to be set up just a bit differently?
All my Smiths have double triggers, whether they are ejector or non-ejector versions. I have a Specialty Grade FWE 16 made in 1945 (according to the yellow hang tag anyway-by the serial number and the extra S added to the stampings- and if I use 1 oz. loads in it, it will sometimes double- the heavier recoil of that load "jars" the sears- no matter which of the two triggers I may 'select' to shoot first. But with RST 2.5" 7/8 oz. loads- No problemo-- works like a Rolex every time--
As I have a machine shop and welding background (waay different from yours and the esteemed Dr. Stumbledick (your pal)you will, no doubt, have noted that I said machine screws, which is the right nomenclature- and if I somehow seemed to have inferred a "Screw You- Dr. Drew ( I do like the slick-ass boater your wear for a chapeau though)in that phrasing, well Goool-EE Gomer!!! Was this "first Lard" married to Maw Paaa'ka ? How's the "esteemed Dr. Stumbledick" fit in here....did he deliver the little "Marketbasket" ?
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[quote=All my Smiths have double triggers, whether they are ejector or non-ejector versions. I have a Specialty Grade FWE 16 made in 1945 (according to the yellow hang tag anyway-by the serial number and the extra S added to the stampings- and if I use 1 oz. loads in it, it will sometimes double- the heavier recoil of that load "jars" the sears- no matter which of the two triggers I may 'select' to shoot first. But with RST 2.5" 7/8 oz. loads- No problemo-- works like a Rolex every time--[/quote]
Wow, and you feel that's good! My guns don't double no matter what load I put through them, and if one ever did I'd fix it so that it wouldn't happen again and not just switch ammo. It's just wrong putting up with that kind of s__t. "works like a Rolex...", indeed!
Steve
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Maybe it's a Mexican "Rolexo" 65 bucks, any street vendor in Ensenada? Do you think Foxie sometimes gets off on the wrong foot, conversation wise? geez!
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