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Longthorne-

Thanks for the post and the info. It sounds like you've created a very interesting gun. I'm sure you'll do well with it.

Please explain some more about how your designs results in negligible recoil. This is very interesting, especially if your gun is a 12g with the weight of a 20g.

I appreciate your time.

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Longthorne-

Hello and welcome! I just received your literature and am very impressed. Indeed, your manufactory seems to be ideal to produce fine machine-made guns since you already have the very expensive machinery and the talent to design and execute.

I'm a bit puzzled by the recoil thing - I don't know why a 20-bore should have a lower recoil if you're shooting the same load at the same velocity as in a 12?

Also, it's not entirely clear how you choke the barrels. It seems you supply removable chokes but also have fixed-chokes? Some of your literature implies that there is something unique about the way the barrels pattern - am I misreading? You intentionally have short forcing cones - why?

Can you put some pictures of the insides of the locks on your website?

I have never owned an O/U but your gun may change that!

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Well I don't see what the big deal is about these barrels. There are two sets of them under that Range Rover and both of 'em are bent. How good is that? About the only up side I can think of is their fitness for shooting around corners in some of these Philadelphia neighborhoods.
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Hello 'Obsessed' and 'Gnomon' thank you very much for your interest, our gun is very rigid and with a very low profile action, with this feature and because of the solid construction of the barrels and the action, which is also manufactured from solid, it also has less flex and thus less felt recoil, the 'stock bolt' also ensures rigidity and extra strength throughout the stock.

Long forcing cones are traditionally used to aid in reduction of felt recoil, we dont have that problem. With short forcing cones there is less chance that 'gas' passes the fibre wad therefore resulting in better shot velocity, everyone has their own opinion on this but in essence we dont need long forcing cones.

We recommend fixed choke in the barrels as our guns are proofed for 3" superior steel (fleur de lys proofed) as standard and we dont 'bulge' the end of our barrels, Our barrels are choked to client specifications although we only go to 1/2 choke for steel proof.

The gun is fairly unique the way it shoots as the barrel holes are straight and round to within 0.02mm so this results in less deformation of the pattern, ordinarily when barrels are soldered together this can result in some inaccuracy in the straightness of the barrel holes.

Nial, thank you for your comment, what we forgot to mention is that when the RangeRover was removed from the barrels they were totally straight and are in current use on the demo gun, thank you for pointing this out and Ill put a note of this on the website. Although we do not recommend that this is attempted with our clients guns as it voids the warranty. It was really a test to discover how much deflection would result in the barrels not returning to their original shape.

Gnomon, glad you received the information and will put some pics of lock work on website.

I hope this assists, any more questions just fire away (excuse pun) best wishes

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A really grand accomplishment!

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Longthorne: I would love to see and 'handle' one of your guns in person. It just appears fabulous at a very reasonable price. Will you be making S x S's too?


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Thank you Chuck H and Buzz, we are planning to do a side x side model but it's just in the design stages at the moment, I do hope you get the chance to see and handle one soon. All the best

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Originally Posted By: Longthorne
Thank you Chuck H and Buzz, we are planning to do a side x side model but it's just in the design stages at the moment, I do hope you get the chance to see and handle one soon. All the best


Let me stop you there dear Sir for a moment:
You are planning to build A side by side ,correct?
Have you ever thought of a side by side like no other, one that exhibits performance that cannot be surpassed, or even duplicated, one that has no equal, one that cannot be beaten THE side by side
Just think of it as the Bugatti Veyron of shotguns.
Would you like more information?

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Now I am intrigued!
Tell me more please

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Hello Beretta Ariston

Knowledge and continuous improvement are the way forward!!

All the best

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