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That summed it up that's very intresting.
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Both types shown here are the business end of the barrels:





Both have their innate charms, but the Woodward/Purdey type action is bloody hell to put together consitantly after cleaning to keep from scarring the barrels, the Boss bareels drop right down and in, anyone can do it with their eyes closed. If I had a choice of any gun to enter the afterlife with, it would be the Boss --hands down. John Robertson and Bob Henderson were two of the finest gunmakers that ever lived, plus its dead sexy!!

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Small Bore,

Thank you for taking the time to provide with such a good answer.

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Thank you Smallbore. Cliff, it would be useful if you would clarify which gun in your picture is which and what feature you are attemptingo to illustrate.

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Originally Posted By: eightbore
Thank you Smallbore. Cliff, it would be useful if you would clarify which gun in your picture is which and what feature you are attemptingo to illustrate.


Top picture : Purdey Woodward with conventional hook that rotates on fixed hinge pins in the action

Bottom picture: Boss with triangular wedge that drops down into a rotating set of trunions that established the hinge

Both marvels of gun design


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Has any British gun authority found fault with either design?

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Me - the barrels are on top of each other!

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Originally Posted By: Small Bore
Me - the barrels are on top of each other!
- Hey- a Limey who thinks, as i do, that a two barreled shotty gun should have the barrels in the same plane and position as God gave us humans our eyes- All Under and Overs, as the Limeys call 'em- no matter the design, maker or hand craftsmanship, are still not as mechanically equal as to cocking stresses on springs, and are a real (*&^% to open and close in a duck blind or pit- compared to a side-by-side- BUT- at least the Limey O/U's are NOT the clubby Germanic guns, and the big bolts and depth of frame and those Kersten fasteners-- Uuugh!

Wonder how many of these Limey O/U's came equipped with reliable single triggers- My 'dream gun" if money were not the issue- a matched pair of Churchill premieres 12 bores- 29" tubes- side-by-side SLE guns, DT, straight hand grip, splinter forearms- 6 lbs. 12 oz. aprox with leather covered Silvers butt pads- first gun choked 1/4 and 1/2 and the number two guns choked 1/4 and 3/4- proofed for 1 & 1/8 loads but with 2 & 3/4" American-ized chambers - so I can shoot AA light trap loads in 'em--You can have every O/U I may ever win at any DU or PF Banquets in exchange- and the Churchills will have been built before 1914, and re-conditioned by Churchill post WW2-guns for a lifetime, and with barrels set the way God would have ordered them, if He was a wingshot!!


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Small Bore, that is an exceptional answer. However, even though I own a few great British side by sides, I would not refuse ownership of an under over if offered at a fair price.

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RWTF, "were" subjunctive. Just pulling your chain, in good humor.

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