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Originally Posted By: Mr W martin
hello,
re the army and navy shown above,i have always understood the top extension style on the above gun is known as a spade extension,as opposed to a dolls head,which is round.(circular)
that is the terminology around my gun circle,but we could of course be wrong!
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I'm no expert. Doll's head is the only term I have heard used. My gunsmiths have called it that, including Nick Makinson who has the gun right now. Spade extension is more accurately descriptive. Perhaps I'll change my ways.


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hello again,
sorry,i wasnt trying to point score and i do realise
that the dolls head name does now appear to be the favoured and accepted terminology re any 'roundly' shaped extension.
sit the two extensions aside one another and i would describe one as dolls head and the other as spade,although i guess it matters very little.
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Thank you, having seen the photos, I know I have seen similar actioned guns before but didn't look deep enough. Thanks again for the education.

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I've also seen doll's head/screw grip guns . . . but maybe I didn't look closely enough at the profile of the rib extension. Might have been like the "spade" variety pictured--and spade is certainly the right descriptive term for the profile in question.

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Dolls head ,spade head ,club head all variations on a theme .

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Another point is that if a gun has the Webley and Scott screw grip then it is almost certainly a Webley built gun that was delivered complete or sold as a barreled action. Webleys never sold action bodies on there own .

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A Webley A&W-C First, screw grip boxlock double rifle with ejectors and intercepting sears, built and finished by Webley, but branded George Gibbs:



A very fine rifle indeed. Built to highest standards. Hell for stout.

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Bringing this thread to the top for Granger.

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I have a 16-bore screw-grip boxlock ejector that is very petite, weighing in at just 5lbs13 (w/28 tubes and a 14 7/8 LOP to a horn butplate). It is marked as being made at the Preston Branch of the W. Richards Business. Now, I know that in another section of this forum, W. Richards is roundly dismissed as being a maker of shoddy firearms, but this one is a gem, with cutaway fences, lovely engraving, a Deeley pushrod forend, and a diamond-shaped grip. It is No. 1 of a pair that was made in 1905, and from reading Mr. Hadoke's new book on boxlocks, I'd have to say it was marketed as a "best" gun.

My question is this: because of the screw-grip, is this a Webley & Scott action that was finished by W. Richards, or was it made by someone like Skimin & Woods (who built many of the 2-inch actions and many other lightweight boxlocks)?

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Referenece your W. Richards, like many makers of what we see as field grade guns they still made some very nice quality work.

As you know they have some lovely children


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