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Re: Second most common lie... ChessieDog #273311 03/30/12 06:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,880 Likes: 16 Torrance, CA Chuck H Sidelock
Chuck H Sidelock Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 13,880 Likes: 16 Torrance, CA	"... my dog has never done that before." "MY BIRD!!!" Last edited by Chuck H; 03/30/12 06:36 PM.

Re: Second most common lie... ChessieDog #273315 03/30/12 06:59 PM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 188 Near Cincinnati C. Roger Bleile Sidelock
C. Roger Bleile Sidelock Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 188 Near Cincinnati	"Nimschke engraved!" About one out of ten guns claimed to be engraved by LDN are the real thing. If it is signed "LDN" or "Nimschke" it should be viewed as a red flag unless documented or verified by an expert. RB C. Roger Bleile Author of American Engravers-The 21st Century FEGA Historian www.engravingglossary.com

Re: Second most common lie... ChessieDog #273321 03/30/12 08:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,275 Likes: 205 Bozeman, Mt. Daryl Hallquist Sidelock
Daryl Hallquist Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,275 Likes: 205 Bozeman, Mt.	Roger, do you have some examples of bogus Nimschke engraved guns or signatures you could share with us ? Wilson has quite a few examples in his book. Are there guns there that are suspect ? Last edited by Daryl Hallquist; 03/30/12 08:41 PM. http://www.bakercollectors.com/

Re: Second most common lie... ChessieDog #273327 03/30/12 09:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 316 Likes: 81 on the fruited plains dukxdog Sidelock
dukxdog Sidelock Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 316 Likes: 81 on the fruited plains	"I own this land as far as you can see." "I won this belt buckle". "I was just trying to push that ewe through the fence". With a fine gun on his arm, a man becomes a sporting gentleman, both on the field and off.

Re: Second most common lie... ChessieDog #273338 03/30/12 10:34 PM
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,741 Likes: 495 Red State KY Jon Sidelock
KY Jon Sidelock Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,741 Likes: 495 Red State	The 28 is the perfect load. We know that the 16 is the perfect gauge.

Re: Second most common lie... ChessieDog #273342 03/30/12 11:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,755 Likes: 30 New York State Brian Sidelock
Brian Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,755 Likes: 30 New York State	this wont hurt a bit choppers are 5 minutes out I am going to hand carry these orders across psot to the 1 shop for you. less than a box of shells through it. factory original heard this one at a show recently. guy was trying to sell me a gun. (I am a dealer) he said it was all complete. (pause) followed by saying "except it needs a firng pin, two screws and a rear sight!" Brian LTC, USA Ret. NRA Patron Member AHFGCA Life Member USPSA Life Member

Re: Second most common lie... Daryl Hallquist #273343 03/30/12 11:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 188 Near Cincinnati C. Roger Bleile Sidelock
C. Roger Bleile Sidelock Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 188 Near Cincinnati	Originally Posted By: Daryl Hallquist Roger, do you have some examples of bogus Nimschke engraved guns or signatures you could share with us ? Wilson has quite a few examples in his book. Are there guns there that are suspect ? Daryl, I have several images of examples of fake LDNs. I also see them at gun shows frequently. I won't display the images on a public forum however because I would be "outing" the owners who might take issue. I'm sure that some of those selling fake LDNs know it or may have been party to the counterfieting but many others really believe they have a gem. It would be fair to ask how I know the difference. I can only say that I have made a study of the subject because it is something I am frequently asked about. There is also a book that features microscopic photograqphy that addresses the subject. It is entitled Gun Engraving as Decorative Art by the late Dr. Fredric A. Harris. Regards, Roger C. Roger Bleile Author of American Engravers-The 21st Century FEGA Historian www.engravingglossary.com

Re: Second most common lie... ChessieDog #273344 03/31/12 12:04 AM
Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,618 Likes: 7 The Lone Star State ! postoak Sidelock
postoak Sidelock Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,618 Likes: 7 The Lone Star State !	Minor pitting... Locks up like a Bank vault... Sharp Rifleing.... Honest wear... Good Rainy day gun.... A few freckles..... Last edited by postoak; 03/31/12 12:04 AM. Mine's a tale that can't be told, my freedom I hold dear.

Re: Second most common lie... C. Roger Bleile #273346 03/31/12 12:34 AM
Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 714 Likes: 9 Hoof Sidelock
Hoof Sidelock Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 714 Likes: 9	Originally Posted By: C. Roger Bleile "Nimschke engraved!" About one out of ten guns claimed to be engraved by LDN are the real thing. If it is signed "LDN" or "Nimschke" it should be viewed as a red flag unless documented or verified by an expert. RB I wish I could find the actual quote, but I read a neat little snippet that reminds me of this. The story is that Zora Arkus-Duntov was at a Corvette show and someone mentioned that they had several of his concept cars at the show. I think his reply was something like "we built five of them, and all eight are here today." CHAZ

Re: Second most common lie... ChessieDog #273349 03/31/12 05:44 AM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 115 Omaha No Dak Scotty Sidelock
No Dak Scotty Sidelock Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 115 Omaha	"Never driven in the rain" And my favorite, "NIB, never been fired!" Well, any gun made overseas will have been fired at the proofhouse, and American guns...how can you tell it's never been fired? Scotty

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