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I have a got a craving for a hammer gun. Anyone here got one, shot, or even seen the Noblesse in person? Any opinions on these? What is the retail price? The website shows very little. In fact the only place I could find it was in the catalog that you can download.
Are there any other hammer guns that are in the $2000-3000 range.
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I second the Kirby Hoyt connection.
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Hi, the Fausti I think is in the 12k range. Depends on the hammergun you want, vintage or modern. If you go vintage, you have a whole bunch to consider, Kirby would be my choice also. The downside is you'll more than likely have to shoot 2 1/2" loads and even with a gun chambered for 2 3/4", low pressure loads are the way to go.
If you want a good vintage hammergun, do your homework and ask lots of questions, there is a learning curve to vintage guns, especially Brit guns.
If you want a modern gun, I'd suggest either a Bernadelli or Siace. CZ also offers a cheaper hammergun (not their coach gun) that might be a good starter, they run about $800 to $900.
Hammergun are fun, but once the bug bites you....your done!!!! I know!!!
Anyway, good luck to you!
Greg
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The downside is you'll more than likely have to shoot 2 1/2" loads and even with a gun chambered for 2 3/4", low pressure loads are the way to go. I don't see that as a downside. I load or buy low pressure, 2 1/2 inch shells for all my shotguns whether modern or vintage. It might be a bit more expensive, but I find that I shoot better when the gun doesn't kick like a giraffe.
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The downside is you'll more than likely have to shoot 2 1/2" loads and even with a gun chambered for 2 3/4", low pressure loads are the way to go. I don't see that as a downside. I load or buy low pressure, 2 1/2 inch shells for all my shotguns whether modern or vintage. It might be a bit more expensive, but I find that I shoot better when the gun doesn't kick like a giraffe. Hi, I know what you mean, bad wording on my part, I also shoot 2 1/2" in all my guns for upland birds, same as you, vintage or modern. I've never really felt a need for "Super Dupper" loads. But some folks seem to shy away from them or think they are not "Big" enough for hunting. If only they knew! All the best! Greg
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You should be able to find a very nice hammer gun for under $3K. That puts you in the range for some American classics like Parkers and for some of the nicer modern European guns like the Bernardelli Italia or Italia Extra, or a Siace, or a Beretta/Mi Val. For half of your budget you could get a Bernardelli Brescia. You might even find a Brit hammer gun in good shape in your price range. The Bernardellis will happily shoot WallyWorld shells all day long. The Brit guns and the American classics should be fed lower pressure stuff.
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Thanks for the replies. Dang, I didnt realize that Fausti made anything in the 12K range. I guess that takes care of that. I will look into the Bernardellis.
I would like to have a vintage hammer gun even more than a new one, but there is very few around here to look at, and buying one of these thru the internet would be very risky.
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I have a got a craving for a hammer gun. Anyone here got one, shot, or even seen the Noblesse in person? Any opinions on these? What is the retail price? The website shows very little. In fact the only place I could find it was in the catalog that you can download.
Are there any other hammer guns that are in the $2000-3000 range. The $9000.00 (on sale at a show) Fausti I handled had mushy feeling locks.
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B2,
Imagine you plan to hunt with your hammergun. If so, issue becomes whether you have a safety so you can carry your gun cocked while in the field. (All of the hammerless guns are cocked once you close the barrels.) Hammer guns with safeties are rare although more common among the modern guns.
The alternative is to choose your hammer gun so that you can sweep the uncocked hammers back with your thumb as the covey rises. Such a vintage gun is easier to find than is one with a safety, but you would need to check it out yourself. Some argue for keeping the action open and then closing it at a covey rise. Can't imagine walking around with the action open myself and, besides, some hammer guns will not open/close with the right hammer cocked!
Bottom line, buy a modern hammer gun that has a safety. Regards, Tim
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