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Seems to me that we have been compromising for the past fifty years. Another 20 years of common sense and there will be nothing left to comporomise.

I can remember taking my .22 to shop class in school and the teacher and I made a new stock for it.
We were able to walk down country roads with a gun, during hunting season without causing much alarm.

You can't even drive down some roads sightseeing without someone calling the law fearing your a threat in some areas.
Alarming?
Perhaps, but so are many other changes, we so sheepishly accept.

Pick your side and fight the battle, the war will find you regardless.

If there's a battle over RKBA, it won't be won by crouching behind the 2nd Amendment, muttering threats and brandishing an AR.

If you want to win the battle:
- support an RKBA organization
- work for habitat
- teach kids firearm safety
- talk one-on-one with your political representatives
- participate in political caucuses - and not just from one party. The environmentalists nailed their flag to one party's mast, and it has cost them these past six years! The Second Amendment belongs to Democrats as well as Republicans.

Ted Schefelbein....are you sure you are a US citizen ?

The FBI should consider profiling yOu...you seem like one sick puppy. Better get your medication checked bud.

Be Civil Joe.
I saw this played out in South Africa over a period of years. In the early '80's the law was changed to limit ownership to 12 guns. The Gun Owners used the same logic as Joe and said "Well we really don't NEED that gun".
Then in 2003 the law was changed to 4.
Now the Gov'mint is confiscating the fine doubles of people who "Don't NEED them". They are not issuing permits to PH's either in many cases.
"Do you really NEED that Holland & Holland 450/400. That's a self described Dangerous cartridge. Oh "dangerous game". Well we meant well to keep you from hurting someone." A friend lost a H&H Royal. Don't say it can't happen.

Oh..I'll be civil with WaycO'Teddy...You think he's sweet on me ?

Jack,
What you say is correct. Teach a kid to shoot and protect the enviornment so that he can continue to shoot. Form common ground. Don't cultivate divisiveness.
Environmentalists and environmentalism in this country started with the hunting crowd. I bet most of the members here know that. Without T. Roosevelt there would be no national park system. Teddy was hated in the west because he wanted to preserve the land. The landowners wanted no restrictions.
It is the hunters who most understand and appreciate true nature and understand how quickly it is lost forever. Ducks unlimited has probably bought and preserved more wetlands than any organization or government.
How did it get to be that Democrats became the enemy and all issues are black and white and divided by party? Why would people who love guns and hunting call people who happen to be in a different political party "enviornmental wackos" (in the words of that esteemed fount of conservative wisdom, Russ Limbaugh and his ilk.)?
I have never understood the rancor and personal attacks engendered by someone with a slightly different political view?
Ted, (and jOe to the extent it applies) I think intellegent discourse is enlightening and provides room for common ground. Why do we need to move it to personal attacks and name calling? Does that somehow help us convince the other person? Somehow, that has not been my experience.
Best to All, Jake

I imagine the Greeks, Romans, Phoenicians and Egyptions had the same feeling about their dynasties, "here to stay".

Unfortunatly, if one is willing to compromise the strengths of our consitution and ALL of its tenants, where does it stop? Me thinks the "foot in the door" analogy is one that is cogent to the discussion of our Second Amendment Rights. Any and all erosion of rights start as a small crack that will eventually become an irreversable slide if allowed to continue.

I think you read a little more into my logic than I actually meant....my Logic was come up with some 'new logic' not just stand all gun issues on the second ammendment.

I'm not a democrat or a republican in my oppinion both parties suck.
I vote Rebulican because I'm a member of the NRA.

Did you guys watch Wayne LaPiere debate that women kook from Australia a few years back ?
I just think the NRA needs some new ammo besides just standing there quoting the second ammendment.

Naw I don't think so j0e, we've all seen your turkey huntin' picture!