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Great job Chuck.Seems to me if you bend a straight grip stock up,say 1/2 inch it would change the bottom line of the stock and cause a hump in it? Bobby
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Bobby, The old Parker was a pistol grip. My Reproduction was the straight stock and it got bent down.
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Impressive there Chuck. You bending apparatus looks very similar to those I have seen in high priced gunsmith shops. I wish I knew how to do it....seems I'm constantly having stocks bent one way or the other. The guns I have had bent are all French walnut which apparently bends easily. I would like to know how your bending goes with American Black walnut. I have 2 Model 21 Win's with original stocks I would like to bend but have been too 'chicken' due to fear of breakage.
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Buzz, My Repro appears to be black or Claro. It's been bent twice, counting the 1/4" I bent it Satuday.
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If I understand it correctly, wood has the fiberous material bonded by resins. The heat softens the resins, allowing the long fiberous material to slip during a bend. One side of the stock is in compression and the other side is in tension during a bend. Beyond that, I dunno what else might be going on in the wood during a bend. It stands to reason that various wood species would have different resin and fiber properties. Possibly one type of wood has different "melting" temperature vs another species of wood.
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Chuck,I understand about bending your straight grip down ,but has anyone bent straight grip stock up,say 1/2 inch or more? Would the up bend mess up the bottom line of the stock? Bobby
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Bobby, Yes, the grip will look funny. It'll have a belly in the grip. I had a straight grip stocked AYA that had a 2 7/8" ish drop that I had a smith bend up to about 2 1/2". It looked a little funny if you looked at the side profile. I often thought about reshaping the bottom line and re-inletting the guard tang. But I sold it after I out grew it.
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Chuck; welcome to the BRIGHT side of the moon! Started bending stocks in 1995. Your jig is impressive. Keep up the good work.
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Good work. I've bent about 30 stocks - a couple didn't work out so great. He's what I've found. Always check the flow of the grain through the wrist. The two times I've cracked a stock is because the grain came out the top and I was bending down. Think I would have learned after the first time but nooo. Also once a guy wanted some cast off on a stock that had some cast on. Once again I didn't notice the grain going out the SIDE of the stock. Good thing I'm fairly good at putting pins in the stock and glueing em back togeather. Bachelder steams the stocks - claims it works better. Wish I knew how to steam a stock. Like most things, just when you think you know what you're doing it'll reach up and bite you. Paul
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Paul, Thanks for the tips on the grain flow.
On whether or not steam or the lamp/oil method is better, I think it's all about getting the wood to the proper temp. Both ways will do it, IMO.
I recall bending some wood strips with steam. It worked well and quickly. There's steam and then there's STEAM. Steam can be anywhere from barely 200F to superheated. I dunno how to do superheated, but I would think it would need to be from boiling under pressure.
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