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I'm putting a plug in for that other defence lawyer who saved a family friend from execution. Clarence Darrow set up the defence for George Harsh, as he did for Leopold and Loeb several years earlier. George served 12 years on a Georgia chain gang, pardoned for a couple heroic acts, turned down offers from Mafia, joined the Royal Canadian Air Force and served with distinction during operations and notably as the security chief in Stalag Luft III for The Great Escape.

His autobiography "Lonesome Road" (Norton) Library Congress No. 69-14699 typically of George doesn't tell how he saved more than 100 Georgia black prisoners chained together in their cellblock during a fire. George wasn't doing well in an American veterans hospital after the war so my father and Wally Floody, RCAF Spitfire pilot and the tunnelling chief engineer, brought him back to Canada where he died in Sunnybrook Veterans Hospital in Toronto, January 24, 1980.

George is an unsung American hero. His book is a masterpiece.

OT - but the historian in me couldn't let the bolded comment go. No question Canada suffered terribly at 3rd Ypres, and pproportionately very highly in the world wars. That said, the statement is untrue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_casualties

Ken

Thanks, Ken, I'll check source which I think was recent New York Review for Passschendaele and I have the official WW1 histories. A glance at your source indicates Canadian (65,000) combined with British totalled 950,000 deaths compared to US 116,000.

Actually, the US lost far more men in the Battle of the Bulge, 12/1944 - 100,000 casualties (19,000 killed) - than the Canadians lost at Passchendaele - 16,000 dead and wounded combined. But there is no point in playing a numbers game - as John Donne said, "any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind."


The real tragedy at Passchendaele was the loss of so many good men for so little gain, so little reason.

Right on, jack. That's the figure I've found for Passchendaele so far, 16,000, and primed by our General Currie, Prime Minister Sir Robert Borden, in London for meetings at the Imperial War Cabinet, told Prime Minister Lloyd George that "if there is ever a repetition of Passenchendaele, not a Canadian soldier will leave the shores of Canada so long as the Canadian people entrust the Government of my country to my hands." For all the good it did. We had already lost 25,000 fighting barely seven weeks on the Somme. It was only part of the butcher's bill.

(A friend has a presentation 12ga Parker to Sir Robert Borden, of Nova Scotia.)

Some of Mr. Lawson's quotes could be used both in defense of second amendment rights and as a criticism of present day perceived deprivation of rights by our current administration. Obviously, the Ramsey Clark quote sounds good to some of us, but I would not be inclined to use more than the principle apparently referred to in the quote, because of its dubious source. If ever there were a series of quotes leaving doubt as to the intent of the user of the quotes, this was it. I think some of the posters here are trying to sound like "gun people" while using this thread to indicate that some of us, the current administration included, are a little too protective of both our rights and safety, while sacrificing some of the rights of those who are our enemies. We started this discussion by debating whether someone who criticizes his sponsors and employers should be secure in his contracts and his job. Where are we now?

For Mr. Zumbo, my quick answer is that when you accept money from mission-oriented agencies---Outdoor Life, whose mission to make a profit and inform---you usually wind up accepting their mission. If you don't, you're a dead duck unless you're working for another mission-oriented agency, government, protected by whistle-blower laws. He wasn't.

Not to mention that the Gun Control Act of 1968 is a near verbatim copy of the Nazi Weapons Law 1938. Sen. Thomas Dodd (D-CT) who wrote the Gun Control Act 1968 was part of the legal team that prosecuted the Nazis at Nuremburg(sp). Dodd's duties were to review the Nazi laws. In the transcripts of a Senate sub-committee hearing on the Gun Control Act of 1968, there is a letter from Lewis C. Coffin, who was a law librarian at the Library of Congress, returning a translated copy of the Nazi Weapon Law of 1938 and the original document supplied by Dodd to his office.

And here I thought that my post would be immediately followed by a couple of posts attempting to blow me and my comments out of the water. Thanks.

Why would anyone do that, eightbore? On the evidence here, everyone loves you.