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Check out this 12g H&H Royal at Holt's last sale. I wonder why it didn't sell:

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Lefty ? Previous owner ? Really fine engraving in that period.

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Yeah triggers and cast are all set for a lefty.

Maybe the older (1897) manufacture date scares some off too.

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restocked, rebarreled to 27" and set up for a lefty. Should be an easy sale......


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hello,
i realise the question is probably tongue in cheek but i shall offer my answer regardless!
replacement barrels,short barrels(by current fads), second half of a pair,re coloured,replacement stock,triggers for left,stock cast on for left.
any other issue not identified in description eg balance,wall thickness, bore condition ,general appearance and feel etc

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Could be the seller put to high a reserve on it. Lagopus.....

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Yeah - I don't know. Even with all the work done to it, I thought it looked decent.It's a real pretty gun. Maybe it photos well, but has some warts we can't see.

It can be bought today for £8000 + VAT and the commission (which is BRUTAL at Holt's). Probably $16,000 or so landed over here.

Today I think it would cost you around that for the new H&H bbls. Forget about the rest of the work someone had done to it.

The lefty thing shouldn't be too much of problem. Triggers can be turned. Perhaps the stock has a lot of cast in it and it can't be bent?

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Many good guns made for left handers also had their tangs etc. bent. That's tough work to make "right".

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What's wrong with replacment barrels by the maker? I have a Purdey and a Royal for sale with new barrels by the maker and I would prefer them to thin barrels or sleeved barrels.


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Me too Mike. They are discounted a little over original though. I guess because of collector interest? I've also wondered if the reduction in value is partially because a gun with replaced barrels may be indicative of a gun with lots of use especially in those with very thin original barrel walls. A damaged original barrel such as from a bulge would not necessarily indicate hard use but then how would one know in most cases the reason for replacement barrels? I would prefer replacement barrels over sleeved but I guess for a 'shooter' it wouldn't matter much either way in terms of utility. Obviously it would in terms of value at least if I was the one doing the buying.


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