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Can anybody on here help me? I have come across this website in my quest to ID a double barrel rifle that I have recently purchased. There are absolutley no markings on the outside of the gun. It has all kinds if belgium proof marks on the inside of the gun, and I think is to be a 10.1 mm (stamped on the under the forestock). Now for the real kicker...I cant seem to figure out how to post any pictures to this forum. If somebody sends me an email I can get the pictures to you, or if somebody gives me step by step instructions on how to post pictures I can try this.
Thanks in advance.

Here is the FAQ on posting photos:
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=148935#Post148935

Here are the Belgian proof marks:
http://damascus-barrels.com/Belgian_All_Proofmarks.html

Pete

Thanks for the help, I have looked through the proofmarks, and understand what they are. I really want to know who built the gun, and any other info on it.

Could it be B. Blindee that built it? Not sure if in Liege, Belgium that is the maker or the "proofer's" mark on the barrel flats.

Overall, the gun looks very nice too, I might add. Something looks a little off regarding that case coloring but I'm no expert on the Belgian aesthetic for color case hardening.

Have you figured out what caliber it shoots based on a chamber cast? Have you regulated and shot it yet?

You need a guy named Raimey (UserID ellenbr) to take a look at this. He's a genius when it comes to identifying unmarked European guns and assigning them to their true makers.

B. Blindee is the Belgian proof mark that ok's the rifled barrel for use with jacketed bullets. The Crown over R designates a rifled barrel.

You have not posted all the marks, so it is impossible to give a time frame, caliber or possible maker.

It is Belgian. It is rifled. It is nitro proofed.

Pete

Can we see more of the Proof Marks on the barrel flats please? I can at least say that it was Proofed at Liege in Belgium for nitro and has the rifled arms mark but you are probably aware of that much already. It looks as if the 'case colours' may have been added by a blow torch by someone. No lasting damage but dosn't look right somehow. Interesting gun none the less. Lagopus.....

Sorry Pete, I seem to have been typing at the same time as you and answering/asking the same questions. Lagopus.....

No big deal. Glad you mentioned the torch job

Pete

The other proof marks that are on the other side are exactly the same on both sides. And there are absolutely no marks on the outside of the gun. I have not done a chamber cast, I believe that the caliber is the 10.1 that is stamped on it, but not sure, the widower I bought it from handed me the gun from behind the closet door, and it had two .45-70 snap caps in it, so that throws another monkey wrench in the mix, but check the pictures out, it isnt your average .45-70 shells, all the shells I have seen are not stepped down like these. These have been modified to some sort. I also know the Proofer (the V with a star above it) was Macon Isidor, that worked from 1929-1953.