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Sometimes less is more.

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I think it has more to do with how the gun has served you in the field as opposed to any aesthetics. Shotguns regardless of action tend to look that much brighter and carry that much better after you make a sweet shot on a fast crossing bird.


Couldn't agree more. More than once I have gone from spellbound to 'pissed off" once a few boxes have been run through said gun.


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Originally Posted By: Gary D.
Sometimes less is more.
Bank accounts are the one clear exception to this old quotation- ditoo 'size matters"-- As my Granddaddy used to say- "Son, sometimes money doesn't talk, but remember, BIG money stands on top of the Empire State Building and screams so that the Limeys in Trafalgar Square can hear it--"


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I have a very plain French MAC SxS 16 that I feel that way about.

A very simple unadorned utility gun than handles "just right".


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"Model 21 Winchester simplified the boxlock even further, doing away with the V springs, using coils instead. The V springs in the boxlock are A- hard to make and fit, and B- they drag on the top of their slot when firing and cocking."

A 1915 patent by Stevens covers coil spring strikers and was used on models into the mid 30s.

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Originally Posted By: 2holer
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"Model 21 Winchester simplified the boxlock even further, doing away with the V springs, using coils instead. The V springs in the boxlock are A- hard to make and fit, and B- they drag on the top of their slot when firing and cocking."

A 1915 patent by Stevens covers coil spring strikers and was used on models into the mid 30s.
And the short-lived Baker sidelock hammerless doubles had spring loaded firing pins that rebounded the firing pin back from the primer pocket after firing- I will concede that of all the American boxlock doubles, as saith both the late Mikey McIntosh and Steve (Model 21's came out in 1941) Bodio-- the AH Fox guns had the best sculpted frame lines--and like the M21, piano wire coil springs--


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My pre-WWI J Stevens which, if memory serves me right, was a model 325 had coil mainsprings & was hammer fired, not striker fired. Frame on it was like a cigar box, much like a 21 without them pointedty thangs. It also had push rods for cocking similar to a 21.
I don't recall the exact introduction date for the 21, but was early 30s, certainly not '41.


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