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Sleeved and stamped 3 tons. What can I shoot. It looks to have exstended the chamber to 3 inches. Any thing modern? 1 oz loads?
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3 Tons eaquals 2&1/2 " .1& 1/8 max load . Its a 120 year old gun I would not shoot any thing over 1&1/8 ounce .
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Was the 3 inch chamber done prior to proof test.
A thumb lever is not that strong of an action...in my opinion more to look at than use.
I'd keep it light.
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Sleeved and stamped 3 tons. What can I shoot. It looks to have exstended the chamber to 3 inches. Any thing modern? 1 oz loads?
Monty If you have just acquired the gun, I would be calling the seller asking to return it, if indeed it has a 3 inch chamber and was sleeved in UK. I do not believe the proof house would have even tried to proof such a early gun for 3 inch.
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Monte
Lots of conjecture here
Can you post pictures of the proof marks?
Thanks
Mike
USAF RET 1971-95 ![[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]](http://www.jpgbox.com/jpg/57865_80x60.jpg)
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I ordered some shells from Vinitagers that are 6700 psi today which I assumed was the lowest he sells. I talked to one guy and he said keep it lite because of the locking mechanism more than the barrels. Homeless I think you are dead right.I will make a photo of the proofs and post them.
I roughly mesured the chamber to the forcing cone but I will measure it with a better stick.
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The thumb hole lever operates a Purdey bolt, which is a perfectly secure method of holding the gun shut, whether operated by a thumb lever, a side lever or a top-lever. Early guns used a single Purdey bolt rather than a double one. Still sound.
If the gun (originally with 2 1/2" chambers has been lengthened to 3" it will be out of proof and valueless outside the US.
One must wonder what kind of abuse it has suffered with some bozo firing 3" American shells in a mid-weight light framed game gun.
The forcing cones will also be affected and it sounds like the gun has been spoiled . All too common with English guns in the US.
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"Perfectly secure" for the time.... maybe.
In the late 1800's it didn't take them long to figure out a double under bite is twice as good as a single under bite.
Another thing to consider when looking at an old 1860/70's Purdey...I don't think they were established as the "Purdey" as they were a few years later.
What I'm trying to say is I don't think in that time frame that they were the best of the rest.
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It looks to have exstended the chamber to 3 inches. 'Scuse my askin', but how do you know? Is is written on the gun, or have you tried slipping a 3" loaded cartridge in the chamber and the action closed, or does it simply "look" just as long as your 3" modren semi?
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interesting take on history, but incorrect. By the 1860's Purdey's was certainly the cream of the crop. You may consider investing in the book "The Early Purdeys", lots of good info in there but mainly muzzleloaders.
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