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In WW Greener's book, he talks about 4-Bore double ball guns. Secifically he talks about a 4-Bore double with 20 inch barrels, a charge of 12-14 drams and a 1510 grain spherical bullet. I was wondering if any of these Greener 4-Bore ball guns have survived today? I have seen a single 4-Bore ball gun before (not a Greener), but have never seen a double. I'm sure they are out there. Any photos or information would be great. Only looking for photos of double ball guns, not double rifles.

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Hi Charlie, I have an ad from Gary Herman's Safari Outfitters from July of 1974 that lists a 4 Bore W W Greener double rifle with 22" barrels. It was made for the Maharaj Rana of Dholpur and was cased in its original case with all accessories. It was a top lever hammerless. I saw pictures of the gun and a friend of mine held it. He said it was a ball gun. It was listed at $12,500.00. Just below it is a matching 16 Bore double rifle (also a smooth bore ball gun) made for the same Maharaj Rana. It was listed for $2,850.00. I will try to find the picture of the 4 Bore.

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Gary,

Sounds exatcly like what I am looking for, thank you for the info. Would love to see a picture if you end up finding it.

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I have one.

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24" barrels 21lbs 1885




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Wow, what a gorgeous gun! Would love to own a beauty like that one day. Thank you very much for the photos. Do you shoot it often?

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From time to time. It's not the sort of gun you take to the range every time for various reasons.

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Yes, I understand. I know it is quite expensive reloading these guns. Thank you agian for sharing the photos.

If anyone else has pictures of their Greener 4-Bore ball guns or of someone elses, please share.

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Just thought you guys would enjoy seeing the other end of the spectrum. I picked up a 28bore ball gun that I mentioned in another thread. I'm just working up a blackpowder load for it now but I'll be shooting it for doves this weekend.

https://moritz.homeserver.com/PhotoViewer/album634815994798731250/index.xml

Kinda fun albeit quite a bit smaller than his 4-bore cousin. The 28 bore is 7 pounds 7 ounces with 28" damascus barrels, one flip up sight. I guess technically it'd be a "ball or shot" gun as it'll do either and has no rifling.

Would appreciate learning more about ball guns as they are a rather esoteric area of firearms lore.

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Rookhawk,

Thank you for your post! That is a pretty little gun you have there. While not a 4-Bore, I can still appreciate it for what it is. How many grains of black powder to you plan on using for it?


Charlie

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