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I concur that Gamebore is the best option in Canada for 65mm compatible shells. That said one could probably get away with using 2 3/4 skeet loads without much problem. Under no circumstances would I suggest heavy field loads.
Another option is to go the reloading route and simply cutting down 2 3/4 hulls to 2 1/2 and either roll crimping or modifying a MEC Press to crimp them. I find the roll crimp route relatively painless and I get a real kick out of using the roll crimp shells.
Lastly SKEETTX I too have a 28 gauge marked with 3in chambers, though my is a plain jane Riunite Armi - E. Salvinelli (not an A&S) O/U from the early 60's. I believe it may still be possible to find 3in 28ga hulls in europe, though I not sure one should.
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Old Colonel both YOU and my mother are/were Gentlemen You by nature and she by act of congress Enjoy the day Mike
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I concur that Gamebore is the best option in Canada for 65mm compatible shells. That said one could probably get away with using 2 3/4 skeet loads without much problem. Under no circumstances would I suggest heavy field loads.
Another option is to go the reloading route and simply cutting down 2 3/4 hulls to 2 1/2 and either roll crimping or modifying a MEC Press to crimp them. I find the roll crimp route relatively painless and I get a real kick out of using the roll crimp shells. Lastly SKEETTX I too have a 28 gauge marked with 3in chambers, though my is a plain jane Riunite Armi - E. Salvinelli (not an A&S) O/U from the early 60's. I believe it may still be possible to find 3in 28ga hulls in europe, though I not sure one should. Yes, this is a route that I may look into.
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You guys must imagine Gunaholic is a resident of the US, with a wide assortment of products available to help him with his problem. In reality, poor old Guns lives in Canada, land of limited supply and even less selection. Brian, I feel for you. James James, it's no problemo for us here as well...you just have to know where to look http://www.bilozir.net/Bill Bilozir is the Canadian distributor for Ballistic Products, he's in Calgay All best CJ
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CJO, That's what I get for entering a conversation about 28 gauge. LOL
Brain and I were talking off site about loaded shells, rather than reloading supplies but for both of us, given the direction our gun collections are going, re-loading may be in our future. It's not something I'm really drawn to, but I hate the very limited assortment of the specialty shells here. Unless you know of alternatives, it is what Kent chooses to carry, in Canada, of the Game Bore line.
Hope you have a good weekend. Get up north and get a few more of those delicious looking pike!
15 days until the grouse season opens, at least where I'm going!
James
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SOOOOOOOOO, James and Brian and CJ are within reasonable distance. Sounds like a group buy in the making. Maybe we can fly a C-130 in with the payload?? Good luck you folks from up NORTH. Looking forward to duck season and doves start tomorrow and I have the 410s out and ready Mike
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In the U.S. the standard 28-gauge shell from its introduction in the late 1890s to WW-II was a 2 1/2 inch shell with a 1 3/4 drams equiv. load and 5/8 ounces of shot. The manufacturers did offer 28-gauge 2 7/8 inch NPEs. Chas. Askins writes in his 1910 book The American Shotgun about handloading 2 1/8 drams of bulk smokeless powder and 3/4 ounce of shot in 2 7/8 inch 28-gauge cases for his Parker Bros. 28-gauge double with 30-inch barrels that weighed 6 3/4 pounds. The first appearance I find of Western Cartridge Co.'s Super-X 28-gauge load with 3/4 ounce of shot, put up in their 2 7/8 inch Field shell is in their March 1, 1931, Western Ammunition for Rifle, Revolver and Shotgun booklet. With the first printing of their 1932 catalogue, Ithaca Gun Co. was again offering their doubles in 28-gauge, and ran some 28-gauge magazine ads about that time as well -- The first appearance of a 2 3/4 inch 28-gauge shell I find, is the Western Xpert Skeet Load with 3/4 ounce of shot which appears in Western's January 17, 1938, Price List. All three lengths are offered briefly after WW-II. The 2 1/2 inch 28-gauge shells are gone from Western's listings by April 1947, and between the March 1948, and February 1949, editions of the Western Ammunition Handbook, the Super-X 28-gauge load changes to a 2 3/4 inch case.
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There's a good reason they call you "Researcher".
I'd suggest going the "cut down a 2 3/4 and roll crimp route", too. I do that for my 65mm 16. Works fine.
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skeettx, we are not that close as distance goes but sure share an interest in guns.
CJO is about an hour from me in Ontario and I have been fortunate to spend some time in his company learning about these fine old doubles (and some newer ones as well!)
Gunaholic is in Winnipeg, my old home town and we discovered while communicating on line that we both have hunting cabins less than two miles apart at Delta Marsh. Before they built a new access road, I used to drive by his place all the time.
I love how the shared interest combines with the internet to lessen the distance between all of us.
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Good catch on the skeet loads, Researcher. I looked again and found that 2 3/4" Xpert Skeet load in my 1940 Shooters Bible. Also a 2 3/4" Shur Shot skeet load. Missed those two the first time around.
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