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You will see Webley and Scott Grip nuts on guns bearing many names including Evans ,Army and Navy , Dickson , Grant ,Lancaster , Atkin , Lang , Churchill , Jeffrey, Westley Richards . You will not see Purdey , Boss or Holland and Holland in shotgns but possibly in double rifle as they made large numbers of these for other makers as well as the longer bodied Paradox's .

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You will see Webley and Scott Grip nuts on guns bearing many names including Evans ,Army and Navy , Dickson , Grant ,Lancaster , Atkin , Lang , Churchill , Jeffrey, Westley Richards . You will not see Purdey , Boss or Holland and Holland in shotgns but possibly in double rifle as they made large numbers of these for other makers as well as the longer bodied Paradox's .

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hello again jOe,
i offer apologies if i have posted anything to your dislike,i was trying to be helpful and have never claimed webleys to be anywhere near top quality.
please do me the courtesy of omitting myself from any form of gamesmanship you enjoy.
sincere best wishes,

mr w martin


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The following photo will answer a number of questions.




Woodward is a BV1 maker (the market values them about the same as Boss, H&H, and Purdey), this is a Propritary action (although, JW could just as well have ordered any of a number of Screw Grip variations), and it is a perfectly fine gun, but not a best work gun. The articulated front trigger and the stock do not appear OE. I shoot it frequently.

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Nice gun...what's the C P stand for ?

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Don, that is an interesting boxlock. Can we see pictures of the triggers and stock?

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Joe - Yeah, that seemingly engraved monogram leapt out at me as well. Seems strange to think it was standard, yet the gun, despite its pedigree, wouldn't seem to warrant custom engraving. Could anyone shed some light on this?

I also agree with your assessment: Nice gun

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Nice gun...what's the C P stand for ?




obviOusly "Crappus prOpieterus"


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What I know about this gun from the Woodward record books:

- delivered 24 Oct 1910
- to Shulto S. Ogilvie
- A&D top lever hammerless steel barrels with extended rib
- (W&S)
- 30" bbls @ 3# 3 3/4 oz (currently 3# 3 oz)
- left 0.733/0.700 right 0.733/0.731
- stock 2"-1 1/4"-3/16"-5/8"-3/4" 15"-14 7/8"-15 1/2"

What else I know:

- the case had a paper tag marked "Fusil 12 bore"
- the case is battered green canvas (been around a bit)
- the lower tang has been repaired across the front screw
- the forearm has a metal "P" hat matches the monogram "P"
- the case has a monogram "AB" on a rond brass disc

What I suspect:

-the wood is a restock in real deal French
- the restock wood is too high a grade to normally be OE
- the articulated front trigger does not look OE
- neither monogram is OE
- the gun has spent time in France

note the half-round wood inlet into the action at the tang-fence junction - earmark of the Propriatary



note the repair across the screw hole


forearm metal monogram


note the wood does not look like a grade appropriate to the Propriatary grade gun


Suspected non-OE articulated front trigger



Did I miss any questions?

DDA






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Nice boxlock. I like it a lot. What a buttstock.

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