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I have a J. Stevens/Springfield double barrel 16 ga s/s. The only indentifying numbers are 5100 on the receiver but that is not a model number. Anyone know how to tell me to find the model?? I'm trying to find replacement parts. Thanks
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Thanks for the response, but the 5100 is a receiver style. That basic receiver was used for a lot of cheaper doubles under different brand names. Plenty of people list these as model 5100s but Stevens nor Springfield ever made a model 5100 gun.
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It is not a straight line, you can't find two points and draw a line between them!! Seems like someting was changing every year.
In 1936 J. Stevens Arms Co. began phasing out their old G.S. Lewis Patent 1,136,247 action with coil spring driven strikers guns, the Stevens No. 330 (or 331 with single trigger), and the Springfield No. 315 (or 315ST). These were replaced with the new 5100 and 5000 actions and became the Stevens No. 530 and the Springfield No. 515. The main difference in a 5000 and 5100 action is the sculpting of it, most of the internal parts are the same. The Springfield No. 311 continued to be made with its plain walnut finish stock and forearm on the old G.S. Lewis action. In 1940, Savage introduced their Fox Model B with a bit nicer profiled action, but many of the same internal parts as the 5000 and 5100 actions. Prior to WW-II the Stevens No. 530 had a capped pistol grip and the various Springfield No. 515s had no cap, but both guns had checkered walnut stocks and forearms. Then in 1940 they introduced the Stevens No. 530M with the Tenite stock. That remained the offerings through 1946. By 1947, Savage had consolidated their arms making operations at the old Stevens plants at Chicopee Falls, Mass., and in the 1947 Savage/Stevens/Fox/Springfield catalogue the Tenite stocked double with the 5100 action was called the Springfield No. 311. By the 1948 Savage/Stevens/Fox catalogue the Tenite stocked double was being called the Stevens Model 311 and they no longer mention a cap on the grip of the Stevens Model 530. By the 1951 Savage/Stevens/Fox catalogue the Tenite stocked gun was gone, and the Stevens Model 311 had a plain walnut finished wood stock and forearm, the Stevens Model 530 had a checkered walnut stock and forearm and the Fox Model B had a checkered walnut stock and forearm with a capped grip. The Stevens Model 530 remained in the offerings through 1954. By 1955 it was only the Stevens Model 311 and the Fox Model B and the new Fox Model B-ST.
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The old wives' tale about the Tenite stocked guns is that stock wood was in short supply during WWII. Per Researcher's post above, the Tenite stock appeared prior to the war. It was actually an attempt to offer a slightly less expensive gun. The 1940 Shooters Bible lists the 530M (Tenite) at $22.95 vs the 530 (wooden stock) at $24.25. Back then, guns were priced VERY competitively, and a $1.30 difference--especially on an inexpensive gun as we emerged from the Depression--was significant.
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I think Stevens 311 parts should work?
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Ah, yes, Tenite. Our introduction to "The Wonderful World of Plastics," our generation's great--and, you better believe it, lasting--"legacy." (Need good luck? "Tock, tock, tock--Knock on Tenite"!).
Does anybody else have all the variations of the classic Stevens Model 124?
Seriously, I think SOME 311 parts might work, but you need to look for the earliest you can find. The 311 series went through a lot of modifications over its many years of production, some worthwhile tweaks, some just cheapening of production. But an early one might be close to your gun.
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It's a model 5100 Stevens. 311 Stevens parts might fit but there's also a chance they won't or you'll have to do some fitting. I thought the 311 replaced it just before WW2, but they are the most confusing bunch of models and numbers of any I can think of. When they appeared and when the disappeared don't really effect me much. I would just try to keep the basic types sorted by looking at the side of the frame at the pins so I could ID them right for repair. I mostly avoid them now but an 80's production 20ga 311 may make an appearance in the 'Sow's Ear to Silk Purse' catagory one of these days. My God what a club!!
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