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From today's Washington Times: How's this for a Catch 22??

One major national firearms retailer, for example, has been under fire for more than two years from the Obama administrations Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. It seems the company wont hire convicted felons, which the commission claims amounts to illegal racial discrimination. The federal government these days argues that policies that have what government lawyers call a disparate impact on racial minorities amount to impermissible discrimination - even when the policies themselves were not put in place for discriminatory reasons. Thus, the government argues that a higher percentage of minorities within the felony population than in the population at large means that any policy that discriminates against felons as a class is discriminatory because its impact falls disparately on minorities.

Company officials pointed out to commission investigators threatening to charge the company with discrimination that they couldnt hire felons even if they wanted to, because federal law prohibits federal firearms licensees from hiring felons. The investigators response was, according to a company official I talked to: Thats your problem, not ours. These are investigators and regulators who can read between the lines, know their bosses are anti-gun and will do anything they can to please them.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013.../#ixzz2OqqDroG9
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I have subsequently learned that the company is Bass Pro Shops.

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Might be old news, but this was just sent to me.



Just another brick in Obumyas socialistic wall.



This really ticks me off, no wonder Obumya has a food tester for all his

meals.







MARLIN FIREARMS CLOSING ITS DOORS PASS THIS ON PLEASE



One more limb on the tree of truth.!! Our country is being stolen in

leaps and bounds. Their plan is if they cannot take our rights, they will

make them so difficult or expensive that we can no longer afford to

participate in them.!!



MARLIN FIREARMS CLOSING ITS DOORS. NOT BECAUSE IT IS NOT PROFITABLE, BUT

CHECK OUT WHY:



Even if you do not own a gun you need to know this. I checked this out on

"Truth or Fiction" who verified it. I trust them more than snopes.



Marlin Firearms is already closing its doors! They are doing it to us,

America! This needs to be spread to all gun owners and sportsmen/women.

We cannot rely on the media to inform us of these types of matters.



Something You May Not Know That Is Happening ... Who is buying companies

that manufacture guns??? A company called The Freedom Group has been

buying up gun and ammunition manufacturers. Some of the companies already

bought are Bushmaster, Marlin, Remington, DPMS, Dakota Arms and H&R. Some

people worry that this Freedom Group is going to soon control almost all of

the firearms companies in the United States. If you control the

manufacturers you can basically stop selling to civilians. Now this is

one way to control guns being sold that I had never thought of. Just don't

let civilians buy them.



What a perfect way to control guns. Now if you do some digging you will

see that The Freedom Group is owned by a company called Cerberus Capital

Management. Guess who controls Cerberus??? GEORGE SOROS, Obama's chief

financier!! He wants to restrict or ban all civilian guns. Please pass

this on to all your freedom loving friends. This needs to come out.

Why have we not heard about this in the "mainstream" media? I would think

this would be BIG news. (Soros also owns Progressive Insurance). If you

don't know who George Soros is, you need to do some Research. He has

continually backed Obama with millions of dollars and Obama is a puppet on

a string controlled by George Soros.



Send this to every gun owner you know!


LATER----------THE INFORMATION IN THIS POST MAY BE BOGUS ACCORDING TO A NOTE I JUST RECEIVED FROM A FRIEND. I'D DELETE IT , BUT THE WEBSITE WON'T ALLOW DELETION AT THIS TIME. Daryl





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In one form or another everything that I will say has been stated in prior posts.

1.) No LAW abiding Citizen shall have arms or protection priviledges that are denied to others. Specifically, if the President deems his right of protection shall exceed our right to self defense - it is an abomnation. Ditto DHS, FBI, local Sheriff, etc or Chuck Schumer or Diane Feinstein. In other words if DHS deems a three shot burst AR a "Self Protection" weapon, it shall not be prohibited from ownership by a Lawful citizen.

2.) No legally purchased Firearm should EVER be recorded by the Federal Government, nor should they have access to such records unless agreed by the Citizen. Nor shall confiscation of a firearm EVER occur unless and until due process following a legal trial before a body of the defendant's peers be perfomed and the defendant announced guilty of a crime which by statute precludes the Defendant from possessing a firearm.

3.) No Tax or License Fee shall be levied for firearms, ammunition or Permit to carry concealed. If the State deems such fees necessary, the Legislators and Governors of such State shall be billed personally to cover the costs of administration - Ditto the Congress and President of the US that vote or sign into law such legislation.

4.) No Permit, if required, will ever be denied unless there is factual evidence to support a Finding of Mental Incompetence - such finding to be performed by two separate Medical processes, one of which must be chosen by the Defendant.

5.) Mental Illness as an exception to Lawful Ownership must be defined and agreed. Records of those forced to submit and/or adjudicated as sane shall be compared against crimes by that person - and criminal behavior data on such persons to be reviewed every year By States for recommendations for improvement.

6.) Congress shall pass a Law limiting the Chief Executive of the States and the United States from issuing any order to compel citizens to surrender firearms under any circumstances, including War and Martial Law. Violation of such Law is grounds for immediate arrest and detention of that Executive by either the Attorney General or by the head of the Agency protecting that Executive.

7.) UCMJ to prohibit any officer or member of the Armed Forces, and Law to prohibit any agent or law enforcement officer, to order confiscation of firearms from Law abiding Citizens. It must stipulate that issuance of such orders by superiors shall constitute an Illegal Order and Not to be Obeyed.

8.) Background checks, if conducted, must apply to ALL citizens including Federal, State and Individual - and data regarding criminal record, mental health and Citizenship must be held in strictest security except for Firearm and Voter's Registration Issuance. Even then, the sole determinant is eligibility to own a firearm and/or vote.

If I was God for a day, a lot of politicians and Government employees would all be re-located to a distant planet - unarmed - to co-exist with all the Terrorists I put there this morning... and let them 'co-exist'.

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More worthless "Gun Control" proposals from the far left:
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http://pjmedia.com/blog/5-gun-control-bills-you-havent-heard-of-yet/2/


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Any board members in MA should consider attending this event next week in Boston - it could be a good opportunity to tell "the other side of the story" away from all the media hype and bias.

CSM event


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The Senate will be taking up "Gun Control" soon so it's time to email your Congressmen again. It only takes a couple of minutes and will go to your State elected officials as well. We have to keep the pressure on and this major issue in the forefront.
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Big Rally in front of the MA Statehouse today in support of the Second Amendment:

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GUN RIGHTS ADVOCATES TAKE TO THE COMMON

By Andy Metzger
STATE HOUSE NEWS SERVICE

BOSTON, APRIL 3, 2013Like most people, Jay Lewis reacted to the news of a mass murder at Sandy Hook Elementary School with a mix of horror and disbelief.

The kindergarten teacher, constable, gun owner and father who attended a gun rights rally on Boston Common Wednesday said the rhetoric around new restrictive laws that followed the tragedy was the wrong course.

It hurt at the time, and as its gone on and Ive heard people use that as a reason to enforce new gun laws, it upsets me because taking away the rights of citizens is not going to help crime, Lewis told the News Service.

Laws governing the sale and use of guns have become a focus in the months since the mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., with lawmakers in Massachusetts seeking to restrict the availability of certain weapons and President Barack Obama pressing the case for new federal laws.

On Wednesday, the two Democrats seeking an open U.S. Senate seat joined together to criticize their Republican opponents in the race for positions they said side with the National Rifle Association.

"While we may be competitors in the Democratic primary, we can both agree that it is deeply troubling to see our three Republican rivals siding more with the NRA and their activists who are descending upon Boston Common today, rather than with the President of the United States on the critically important issue of gun safety, Congressmen Stephen Lynch and Ed Markey said in a statement. Once again, our opponents find themselves dramatically out of step with the majority of Massachusetts residents. We both understand that we can and must do more to protect our residents from the scourge of gun violence, and hope our opponents will rethink their efforts to derail our Presidents agenda when it comes to gun safety."

Earlier in the day, Rep. Dan Winslow (R-Norfolk), one of the Republicans seeking the seat, told reporters he has a three-stage litmus for evaluating gun laws.

In any issue involving guns I ask three questions: Would it have prevented the Newtown tragedy? Will it keep kids from killing kids with illegal guns in our inner cities? And does it respect the Second Amendment rights under the Bill of Rights, and to me if the answer is no, no and no, Im not terribly interested in it because its feel-good legislation that doesnt solve the problem, Winslow said. He said the solution lies in fixing our mental health system.

A New Bedford native who now teaches in the city, Lewis said he does not carry a firearm to school, and has never sought permission, though he said his life had been threatened by a father who was a gang member.

Theres also a need to have a standardized training, which we dont really have as a constable, and I kind of think we should, and we should have it if a teacher wants to carry, because it takes a certain amount of proficiency, Lewis said. He also said permission for teachers to carry should be handled by the state, not individual principals, and said additional training for teachers who want to be armed in school makes sense and would alleviate concerns.

The Gun Owners Action League rally on common drew a crowd of gun rights advocates who cheered on a recitation of the Second Amendment that followed the Pledge of Allegiance. Some in the crowd carried provocative signs, one of which said Blame these tools next to photos of accused mass murders and not these tools next to photos of firearms.

One man at the rally who identified himself as John Delcord said the governments trying to take our guns, just like the British tried to do when we started this great country and claimed that police know where illegal guns are located and choose not to enforce gun laws because if you cut that out, youd lose all the overtime and special funding.

Lewis, who criticized legislation proposed by Gov. Deval Patrick and Rep. David Linsky (D-Natick) as not realistic and punitive toward law-abiding citizens, said that while he does not agree with the notion that governments taking peoples guns away, he sympathized with those who believe that.

I can see why people are getting upset. I dont think were at that point yet, Lewis said.

Accompanied by his 11-year-old son, Lewis said that he knew from his father, a constable, how to properly turn in a gun he found as a child, and said that at a certain age children should be educated on gun safety in case they encounter guns.

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Quote reported in multiple sources:

"At a Senate Judiciary Committee meeting on Thursday, Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-California) opposed an amendment to her Assault Weapons Ban legislation that would allow military veterans to continue to buy the firearms that would be banned. Feinstein says a veteran may be mentally ill and should be prevented from purchasing firearms.



SEN. DIANNE FEINSTEIN: If I understand this, this adds an exemption of retired military. As I understand our bill, no issue has arose in this regard during the 10 years the expired ban was in effect and what we did in the other bill was exempt possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States. So that included active military.

The problem with expanding this is that, you know, with the advent of PTSD, which I think is a new phenomenon as a product of the Iraq War, its not clear how the seller or transferrer of a firearm covered by this bill would verify that an individual was a member, or a veteran, and that there was no impairment of that individual with respect to having a weapon like this."

Heard about this Feinstein blunder in the "mainstream news media"?

Now what do you think would happen if a Republican made a proposal to bar all Blacks from owning firearms since some of them have proven to be irresponsible?
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For all the B.O. voters on this board who SAY they are pro-gun, but don't support the NRA and voted to destroy the country we live in........

Here ya go:





Doug



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