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No - it's a Tula MC-11, This was their top-of-the-line shotgun, made on a Beesley action. Tula made a handful of these shotguns, and I've seen at least 3 others on the market. The Soviet government used a couple of them as presentation guns to important diplomats. Here's one that was at Julia's in 2009: http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/tula-arsenal-mc-11-beesley-self-opening-action-p-1-c-e83401e6ebIf you search the archives here I think you'll find out more about them. Geno knew more about them. American Rifleman mag published an article in '73 about the one at Julia's. I've handled and inspected one. I think my friend still owns it. It was beautifully made, but not quite a Purdey. I was more of Tula's interpretation of a Purdey. Fantastic gun, though. OWD
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The only lessons in my life I truly did learn from where the ones I paid for!
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I have handled one and it is, in my opinion, better engineered than a Purdey. It has radiused corners on the action mating with radiused areas in the barrels, the metal surface finishing is superior to the Purdey version of the Beesley. However, they are heavy because they were designed from the start for 2 3/4 inch shells and pass shooting. The action is faithfull to the Beesley patent, with the full self opening feature, although the ejectors are based on the Baker design not the Southgate.
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http://www.gavingardiner.com/BidCat/detail.asp?SaleRef=0018&LotRef=171This one have a special history, it is in the nex Gavin Gardiner sale april 17. I have shot one in Russia past yaer, great guns. Still available today, but not the same quality anymore as bofore. Marc.
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I think Roger Barlow wrote one of these up in a AR article back in the 70's.Gun had a lot of gold and beautiful color hardening as I remember.
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Roger Barlow owned it.Article may have been in Gun Digest,not sure. Bobby
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I'm sure it was in the AR as it was pictured on the cover too.I miss Barlow.
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However, they are heavy because they were designed from the start for 2 3/4 inch shells and pass shooting. Trap, actually. The original intent behind this gun (and other early TKIB models) was to arm Soviet trap shooters with Soviet guns for the 1952 Olympic Games, the first Olympics USSR considered entering. If my memory serves, around 1947 The Tula Armory's Higher School of Gumaking was ordered to come up with 'improved' copies of guns with which top Soviet trap shots shot before WW2. They used a Lebeau to create TS1 (T for Tula and S for "Sport"), and a Purdey self-opener for TS2. However, the USSR trap team discovered that side-by-sides were on the way out as far as trap was concerned; they experimented with Winchester semis and Merkel o\u's for a while and finally decided an o/u would be their best bet. Concurrently, the School was transformed into 'Central R&D Bureau for Sproting Firearms', TsKIB for short. MTs 6 and 8 models were designed for trap, and TS 2 was rebranded MTs 11 and remarketed as top-notch presentation gun. Still in production as MTs111.
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