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Originally Posted By: coosa

Thanks for the welcome! Yes, I am aware of several hunters using tungsten in a .410, and they are as effective as 3.5" 12 gauge guns shooting lead.


Stupid comments like that should not be allowed on the internet.

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Gents all this theorising is very good but how about some real tests ? Get one of the magazines to set up some experiments and put this thing to bed once and for all.


Then we would just have to find something else to theorize about.

It is fun to debate Chuck and Miller. But in the process of defending my theory I have become convinced of its correctness.

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Good to see Homey Joe back in the fray.

This thread needs more bile.

But methinks the "stupid comment" was mere bait...

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The question is not whether the "Amarillo sling" exists, but whether it's significant.

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Originally Posted By: Chuck H
The question is not whether the "Amarillo sling" exists, but whether it's significant.


I agree.



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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Originally Posted By: coosa

Thanks for the welcome! Yes, I am aware of several hunters using tungsten in a .410, and they are as effective as 3.5" 12 gauge guns shooting lead.


Stupid comments like that should not be allowed on the internet.


Turkey Comander, is that you? I thought I recognized you from the tone of the post! If not, please accept my apology.

These 2 turkeys would disagree with your assessment of the effectiveness of tungsten. But they can't, cause they're dead. smile



And notice those are mature gobblers killed in the spring; not lost baby hens killed in the fall. smile

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
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The left barrel shot 10" to the left at 40 yards, and the right barrel shot 7" to the right. It was only then that I started to get serious learning about barrel regulation of a sxs. I found that its impossible to get a sxs that will shoot all loads with both barrels to the same POI.


That's probably true for cheaply made production guns.

All the W&C Scotts I've owned all shot to point of impact with any load or shot size I've shot through them (with the exception of Federal flight control wads).



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I have been thinking for some time that the perfect turkey gun would be a sxs 20 gauge shooting the heavy tungsten shot. With one open barrel for close shots, and one tight barrel for longer shots, every possible shot should be covered.


Upland choking in a turkey gun is stupid nonsense started by some outdoor writer that didn't know his azz from a hole in the ground.
The perfect SxS turkey gun (which I just happen to own) should be 12 ga. and equally tightly choked in each barrel....


I don't believe physics knows anything about the price of the gun, or whether it is custom or production.

The idea of the "perfect turkey gun" is very much a personal opinion. For me, the whole point of a sxs is to have 2 chokes - one for longer shots and one with an open barrel for closer shots. Gives me a better chance of not missing one that surprises me and gets too close. If you are gonna choke both barrels the same, what's the point of a sxs?

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And what happens if you hit a bird at 35 yards with your tight choke and don't kill him ?

Chances are he won't run towards you...

The idea of upland choking and pixey dust sized shot for turkey is about as dumb as shooting deer with a .22 rim-fire.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
And what happens if you hit a bird at 35 yards with your tight choke and don't kill him ?

Chances are he won't run towards you...

The idea of upland choking and pixey dust sized shot for turkey is about as dumb as shooting deer with a .22 rim-fire.


It is you! I haven' talked to you since they threw you off the GON forum, but file this in the "its a small world" category. I joined a club in TN about 20 miles west of Centerville for spring turkey hunting. I killed a turkey the first morning I hunted it, and then never heard a gobble on it again in 5 more mornings, so I didn't rejoin. Anyway, the club president was riding me around and a couple of jakes crossed the road in front of us. He dived out of the truck with his gun, intending to blast one of them, so I stepped out too. They ran down below us, and I had my Alan Sentell trumpet around my neck, so I started talking to them. They answered and were on their way back to the road when a gobbler sounded off on the other club. We forgot the jakes and set up on the gobbler, but couldn't lure him to our side.

After we left, he was impressed with my trumpet and then showed me his - it was one of yours! Turned out you were a member of the club too, and had given him the trumpet. You shoulda taught him how to run it; he wouldn't even try for me. Said he couldn't make a turkey sound with it. Giving him that call was a very nice thing for you to do - my opinion of you went up a lot. He's not somebody that could do a lot for you, so it was just pure generosity on your part.

Oh, btw, I'm usually poorcountrypreacher on turkey forums, but I use coosa sometimes too. It doesn't take so long to type.

Back to the gun - the right barrel has an almost can't miss pattern at 25 yds. I shot it at 22"x28" poster board at 25 yds and there was nowhere on it that a turkey could have had his head or neck and survived. But it still had a 102 hits in a 10" circle at 40 yds, so if I crippled him at 35 with the left barrel, I could still kill him easily with the right.

I killed the 2 in the pic in GA a few days ago. Shot the first one at 27 yds with the right barrel and he hardly flopped. Went to another spot and called in the second one. I had to move the gun when he went behind the only cover and he caught the movement - had to shoot him with the left barrel at 41 yds, and there was nothing visible over a log except his head and a few inches of neck. He flopped all over the place, but he wasn't going anywhere.

Check the thread that has GLS with his little .410 single shot and several turkeys. It is a 40 yard killer every time. I know you wouldn't shoot one past 40 yards, so his little gun would be all you'd need. wink

Just kidding - we won't ever agree on tungsten for turkeys, but I wanted to tell you about seeing the call you gave away. Good luck in your hunting!

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Coosa, how come all your dead turkeys have a red and white bulls-eye on them. I've never shot one with that feature...Geo

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