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Fred,
Is the Shelhamer name stamped with individual letters?
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Fred,
Is the Shelhamer name stamped with individual letters? Yes, individual letters, do you have any hints for taking a better picture of the buttstock?
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Fred it's great to see someone you know find. Something so neat. Whitey
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Fred, I hate to rain on your parade but I think a little more research might be in order. We need to learn some background on Ben Comfort and see if he used a Niedner rifle. The crown is right on, a square crown with bright metal. Is the caliber marked on the barrel. In my database 1461 & 1465 the only two numbers close to your rifle are .300 H&H. In my experience Tom Shelhamer used a stamp with his name on it as seen below. You might also take a close look at his inletting. Did you take pictures of the barrel and action inletting?
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Nice Dubiel, how is it marked and does it have a number with the name?
Michael, it's marked "Dubiel Arms Co. No. 734". It is fitted with an early commercial trigger of unknown make. I obtained it as a barrelled action only. A friend who collects Springfields had the stock, with the barrel channel already enlarged, which he was kind enough to let me have. The front band was fashioned from a M1917 front band, as were the originals, as I understand.
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A friend showed me his Neidner, Shelhamer, Kornbrath target rifle. I thought it was just a rich man's toy,never thinking of it as a Camp Perry competitors' gun. It is one rare and beautiful gun.
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Great a new number for my records.
I have seen Dubiel rifles that are marked “Made By John Dubiel Ardmore, Okla. No XXX” and “Dubiel Arms Co. Ardmore, OKLA.” I believe Dubiel may have continued on in numerical order with the Hoffman numbers. In my modest database of twenty-two Dubiel rifles the lowest number I have for "Made by John Dubiel Ardmore, OKLA” is No. 485 and the highest is No. 509. The lowest for "Dubiel Arms Co. Ardmore, OKLA” is No. 512 and the highest is No. 730.
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A friend showed me his Neidner, Shelhamer, Kornbrath target rifle. I thought it was just a rich man's toy,never thinking of it as a Camp Perry competitors' gun. It is one rare and beautiful gun. Some of the target shooters spent some real money getting a nice rifle. I think i saw this rifle (Niedner-Shelhamer) for the first time at the Amber auction and it come up for sale every few years.
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Dear Michael, Rain all you want on my parade, truth and research are important to me. Here are some more pictures, I hope that they help. First, a picture of the caliber markings ] second a picture of the butt plate, it looks like a cast brass version of an 1903 NRA sporter buttplate, have buttplates like this been seen before on stocks from Niedner? And here is another picture of the stamping on the stock As for the inletting, I will take some pictures tomorrow, but I doubt they will be conclusive. It looks good, but unlike the 1903 action, the 1917 action doesn't have as many little details that will show the difference between good inletting and great inletting. Fred
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Thanks for the caliber markings, I don't see many marked with the caliber before late 1937 or so.
Is there a name stamped on the top of the buttplate like "Pacific"?
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