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Stan let me get one thing straight.

I had 3 relatives that fought for the South in the Civil war....Another 2 that fought in World War I and 3 uncles that fought in World War II. Had another good friend that died a few years ago that went down on two different ships in the Pacific another friend that got his lower jaw shot up by machine gun fire on some Japanese occupied island. I've only personally known a couple of Korean war vets.

Had a couple of close buddies that fought in Vietnam they both made it home only to die at an early age from Agent Orange related diseases (both died from a rare form of brain cancer).

Coming of age at the end of the Vietnam War is the only thing that stopped me from being there.

I'm proud of them all but that doesn't make me believe it was all righteous....

Our Great Country stopped being righteous about 160+ years ago.

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
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Why you think we went to war with Japan ?


Pearl Harbor was a staged event so we'd have an island to test the A bomb on....all the ships that were left at Pearl Harbor were out dated decoys.


jOe,

I like your humor, usually, but this post makes me really wonder about your seriousness. It is idiocy to think we would have sacrificed as many men as were lost there to "decoys".

And, if this was an attempt at backhanded sarcasm, it is in very poor taste.

SRH


This isn't something I just dreamed up.

Our President at the time couldn't get approval to wage war on Japan....in war sacrifices are made.

The Japanese were fooled into attacking Pearl Harbor thus giving war the go ahead from the American people.

Watch the Pearl Harbor documentaries....the government knew that attack was coming that's why our best ships weren't there.





As a student of WW II I have been studying this period for over 50 years.
The facts are, like it or not, that Roosevelt was a closet Socialist and a supporter of Stalin. He know it would take some extreme event to get us directly involved in WW II as the majority of Americans were opposed to it. I have concluded that the proof available is indisputable that Roosevelt goaded the Japanese into attacking us, knew in advance that Pearl Harbor would be hit and did nothing to prevent it.
As far as I'm concerned he still should be retroactively impeached and removed as the President of the United states for treason.
Additionally he stated the United States down the road to Socialism a condition many of us are painfully aware of today.
Jim


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I take it some still think the World Trade Center destruction and the Pentagon bombing wasn't an inside job.

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Originally Posted By: italiansxs
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Originally Posted By: Stan
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Why you think we went to war with Japan ?


Pearl Harbor was a staged event so we'd have an island to test the A bomb on....all the ships that were left at Pearl Harbor were out dated decoys.


jOe,

I like your humor, usually, but this post makes me really wonder about your seriousness. It is idiocy to think we would have sacrificed as many men as were lost there to "decoys".

And, if this was an attempt at backhanded sarcasm, it is in very poor taste.

SRH


This isn't something I just dreamed up.

Our President at the time couldn't get approval to wage war on Japan....in war sacrifices are made.

The Japanese were fooled into attacking Pearl Harbor thus giving war the go ahead from the American people.

Watch the Pearl Harbor documentaries....the government knew that attack was coming that's why our best ships weren't there.





As a student of WW II I have been studying this period for over 50 years.
The facts are, like it or not, that Roosevelt was a closet Socialist and a supporter of Stalin. He know it would take some extreme event to get us directly involved in WW II as the majority of Americans were opposed to it. I have concluded that the proof available is indisputable that Roosevelt goaded the Japanese into attacking us, knew in advance that Pearl Harbor would be hit and did nothing to prevent it.
As far as I'm concerned he still should be retroactively impeached and removed as the President of the United states for treason.
Additionally he stated the United States down the road to Socialism a condition many of us are painfully aware of today.
Jim
I agree 100%--FDR, as Commander-In_Chief- bears the responsibility for the Pearl Harbor disaster- He cut off the shipping of US oil and scrap metal to the Japs in 1038--and ignored the warning signs of their impending attack in Dec 1941-


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Originally Posted By: Stan
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Why you think we went to war with Japan ?


Pearl Harbor was a staged event so we'd have an island to test the A bomb on....all the ships that were left at Pearl Harbor were out dated decoys.


jOe,

I like your humor, usually, but this post makes me really wonder about your seriousness. It is idiocy to think we would have sacrificed as many men as were lost there to "decoys".

And, if this was an attempt at backhanded sarcasm, it is in very poor taste. What else can we expect from our pair of "wing-nutz" in this Forum sector- Homeless Joe and Bilious Bob--the "Laurel and Hardy" lads who love to goad us into answering their idiotic threads here- Personally, I enjoy reading their BS threads-

SRH


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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Stan let me get one thing straight.

I had 3 relatives that fought for the South in the Civil war....Another 2 that fought in World War I and 3 uncles that fought in World War II. Had another good friend that died a few years ago that went down on two different ships in the Pacific another friend that got his lower jaw shot up by machine gun fire on some Japanese occupied island. I've only personally known a couple of Korean war vets.

Had a couple of close buddies that fought in Vietnam they both made it home only to die at an early age from Agent Orange related diseases (both died from a rare form of brain cancer).

Coming of age at the end of the Vietnam War is the only thing that stopped me from being there.

I'm proud of them all but that doesn't make me believe it was all righteous....

Our Great Country stopped being righteous about 160+ years ago.


You got that point straight, jOe, not that I had any doubt about your patriotism, never have. Just your judgement, if you seriously think that we used all 8 battleships of the Pacific fleet, 3 cruisers, 4 destroyers, 6 other ships and 350 aircraft, all of which were damaged or lost, as DECOYS!! Give me a break.

I agree totally that we stopped being righteous a long, long time ago. But, we weren't bad enough to do that in 1941.

SRH


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I have a government printed think tank book written in the mid 1930's about the coming conflict with the Japanese in the western pacific. It is a series of essays about the Japanese urge to expand and our reluctance to allow them to do so.I have it around somewhere and as soon as I find it ....we knew that we were going to be butting heads with the Japanese long before 1941.

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Do some further research and you'll find that we snookered Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor so we could declare war and test our new A Bomb on live people on a island.

If not then why did we rebuild a country that we destroyed in war ?

And crazy as it sounds 9/11 was an inside job....it accomplished two things....it drug us into war and also covered up trillions of dollars of unaccounted spending/money at the Pentagon (funny thing the missing money was announced on live TV by Secretary Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and no mention has ever been made of the missing money since).

This was all on Jesse Ventura's TV show....last I heard they ran him out of the country.

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I heard you were up north, drinking shine with RWTF. Maybe it was methanol.

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"(funny thing the missing money was announced on live TV by Secretary Rumsfeld the day before 9/11 and no mention has ever been made of the missing money since)."

jOe:
Would you provide some documentation or a source for this statement? I would like to follow up and pursue this.
Jim


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