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I have Japanese and Korean BSS guns in my safe. The Korean ones suffer from poor wood assembly. Screw holes in the wood are poorly drilled. The metal work is identical. My understanding is that the Japanese did not farm out any metal work to Korea. Just the assembly of the wood. I think it was an experiment that only started with some very basic work. I don't know who passed that along to me but it was likely a member here.
Last edited by Chuck H; 12/01/13 11:10 AM.
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chuck: thank you. anybody else?
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Regarding the trigger. I have shot tens of thousands of rounds thru BSS guns and the only trigger issue I ever encountered was traced to some tinkering by an unqualified wannabe. He had intended to "slick up" the trigger by polishing on parts of it. The parts he polished rounded the corner of what I call the disconnector and allowed it to double. A simple mill file cut the corner sharp again and it hasn't missed a beat since. My opinion is that the BSS trigger is the best design I've encountered but it takes up a lot room in the works.
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Hi all, my son now has my old BSS Sporter in 20ga. This was my first good double after having a few Savage/Stevens SxS's. It has 26" bbls, SST and is a later model (the Korea/Japan one) and I had Carlson install their choke tubes in her. I gifted it to my son who shoots it very well. This one weighs in at 6-8 kind of heavy for a 20, but not to bad. The wood on it is nice, not a fence post or knock your socks off stock, but not bad. The fit and fitting is quite good and the bluing has held up very well for the amount of use it's gotten. Never had one problem with her in any way, including the trigger which has never doubled, balked or failed to select.
IMHO a very good gun (at least the one my son has).
Best!
Greg
Gregory J. Westberg MSG, USA Ret
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Agree with Jaeger on the non-BSS Miroku guns (Daly, and Western Field sold by Ward's). Much less expensive than the equivalent BSS, although they're not the sleepers on the market they used to be (thanks to websites like this one!)
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I have both a 20 box lock and a 12 side lock BSS, both made in Japan. Both have truly nice wood and both handle and perform flawlessly. Both have 26 inch barrels, but the 20 actually weighs just a bit more than the 12. I have used both on pheasant, chukar and quail. If I had to choose between the two, although I would prefer the 20 gauge, I would choose the 12SL just for its weight and handling. I do have an Ithaca/SKB 280E that handles as well if not better than the BSS 20 but it is choked tighter and I have just never had them opened. On doves, it is a killer. Next to my Merkel the two BSS's are my favorite SxS's in my safe. Of course, I do have a Gold Label that handles and shoots well also, but BSS 12 and the Merkel are my two best handling SxS's. Bottom line - I am quite pleased with my BSS's!!!
Perry M. Kissam NRA Patron Life Member
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PS
BTW Stan, you really had me going when I read your post, until of course I detected the decidedly "tongue in cheek" slant to your post that was identified by your magnanimous offer to take them off Ed's hands!!!! Sly. Very sly!!
Perry M. Kissam NRA Patron Life Member
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PS again.
I forgot to add that both mine are Japanese guns.
Perry M. Kissam NRA Patron Life Member
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Actually, I had not forgotten. Old age!!
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Roughly month ago I looked over 12ga 28" straight grip 'Sporter' in top shape (little or no use) at gun shop/pawn shop called Dance's Sporting Goods. It's 3" gun but do not know where it was assembled since I had Daewoo assault rifle in past and have no doubt Korean capability of making guns. If anyone wants Citori-A&D mutant it's probably still in the rack. I can't see anyone local dishing out $2000 for one. I say if you want clays gun buy vertical gun if you want horizonall game gun buy BSS SLE or something else. Personally if I was stuck on Browning name and wanted something with BSS ble handling I would buy fixed choked Citori in top shape of $1000 or less.
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