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Richard:
Federal is 5000 psi but at 1200 fps
Winchester AA 'Low noise Low recoil' about 6000 psi by independent testing but 980 fps
Remington does not provide pressure infro (I tried re: 16g Game Load) 1100 fps
RST has lots of options but run about $85/case as do the Polywad shells
http://www.rstshells.com/Shells-best.htm
I'd be comfortable using any of them and please remember that pressure does not equal recoil and I'm more concerned about the recoil effect on the 100 year old wood of my 06' 2E LC.

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Thanks, Revdocdrew. I have used a lot of RST in the past, but I'm looking for an alternative that doesn't cost $85 a flat. I appreciate all the info you've collected. Rich


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My local sporting goods store runs specials on Win. AA's occasionaly for $4.60 a box if you buy by the case. They stock a couple cases of the feather shells that normally get bought up around then.

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Happy to help Rich, and as Coryreb said, the Sportsman's Warehouse near me frequently has specials on the AA's at $45/case (but likely to go up with the recent rise in shell prices.) I don't appreciate any difference in lead on the skeet field and they are indeed very low recoil but seem to have some inconsistent powder burning in cold weather- not a big problem here in 'Furnace, AZ'

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I recently bought a mixed case of AA's xtra lite target loads-12's & 20's at Bass Pro at fairly good price.

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Great Thread!!! I have learned alot here but have a couple of questions. First, do the AA loads at 980 fps have less felt recoil than the Federal Loads at 1200? How do they perform on the skeet/sporting/trap field? Being as the majority of vintage SxS'x are 16 Gauge with 2 9/16" chambers, I assume that a low pressure 2 3/4" shell will work just fine. Is there a decent source of reasonably priced 16 Gauge ammo in the same vein as the 12 gauge stuff? Thanks in advance for your help.

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Alas, but Winchester does not make either a Feather-Lite, or an Xtra Lite in 16 ga. Polywad does and that is your best bet.

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NEW PRODUCT FROM WINCHESTER
WinLite Low Recoil
12g is 28gm (1 oz.) at 980 fps
The Low Recoil Low Noise is 26 gm (15/16 oz) and is still in the catalog
20g is 7/8 oz (just more than 24 gm) at 980 fps
http://www.winchester.com/products/newitems/whatsnewcontent.aspx?productid=52
No pressure data published


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ANOTHER NEW PRODUCT

Nobel Sport now has light 12 and 20g loads
http://www.dkgtrading.com/nobelsport/lr1.html

ITEM NO. DESCRIPTION GAUGE LENGTH OZ. OF
SHOT SHOT NO. VELOCITY F.P.S.
ANSLR788 Low Recoil 12 2 3/4 7/8 8 1200
ANSLR175 Low Recoil 12 2 3/4 1 7 1/2 1200
ANSLR18 Low Recoil 12 2 3/4 1 8 1200
ANSLR185 Low Recoil 12 2 3/4 1 8 1/2 1200
ANSLR19 Low Recoil 12 2 3/4 1 9 1200
ANSLR208 Low Recoil 20 2 3/4 3/4 8 1200

I e-mailed requesting pressure infro.

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I see that this back to the top, thanks for all the recommendations. The gun in question is a 2-1/2", 12 ga. damascus that has recently been reproofed to 850 BAR. It has also just been restocked so I think I'm more concerned with lower pressure loads being easy on the reciever rather than lower recoil affecting the wood.

BTW, wouldn't variables like actual bore diameter, choke, and barrel length affect pressure or are those variables negligible?


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