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Buschemann, indeed a very nice double rifle, congratulations with it.
I have seen a picture of your rifle on a preview of the GGCA calendar for 2014 that Jon Spencer have send to me, so I have seen it before you put the pictures on the forum.
Marc.

Hi Mark:

I will try to add some pictures. I am new at this and not so tech minded.

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Euro Hunter,

Thank you for posting the pictures of your Anton Sodia vierling, it's very impressive; a nice example of Austrian firepower (Feuerkraft?) for sure. What is its year of manufacture? Do the two rifle barrels shoot well with factory ammunition or do you reload? Do you use Brenneke slugs in this gun or another gun?

GETTEMANS,

Thank you for your nice comment.

Mark

Euro Hunter, indeed a nice vierling, not often seen, congratulations with it. I am curious about your answers on the questions that Buschemann ask you. I while ago I have seen some nice vierlings on offer at E-Gun by the same maker, maybe it is you who bought the one you have now.
Marc.

Buchsemann,

have a look at the cheekpiece of this Drilling:

http://egun.de/market/item.php?id=4786271

Not as "squarish" as on your Bemesu rifle, but quite close to my eye.

This Oberhammer Drilling is old, my guess is from the 1880s.
As Oberhammer had filed own patents for Drillings, I would further guess that he made his guns in his own shop in Munich - but can't exclude he sourced from Suhl or Liege. Question for the experts...

Regards
fuhrmann

fuhrmann,

I sure like the lines of the, as Axel explained to us, "Altdeutsche Backe" = old German cheek-piece" or a "Verlaufende Deutsche Backe" = running out German cheek-piece such as that on the drilling that you have posted for us. I'm not familiar with P. Oberhammer and hope that one of our experts has something on him. I take it the lever on the right is the selector. It would be interesting to see the details of how it works.

Regards,

Mark

I have also noticed that drilling and I find it a very nice collectable piece of guncraftmanship. Sure that for his age (I also estimate the gun around 1880) he is is very good shape.
The rifle barrel is in 10 X 46 R and I have never hear of it.
Sure that Axel can clear this.
I think it must be interesting to see the proofmarks (if there are any proofmarks on the gun)
Marc.

Mark,

I also do not see how this selector works.
Peter Oberhammer opened his shop in Munich in 1872. Interesting to see that the company still exists:
http://www.waffenmuenchen.de/

In 1878 Oberhammer filed a German patent for selectors for drillings.
PeteM from this forum has found details:
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=223652

However the selector in the patent drawing looks different (and very sketchy) and it's also hard to see how this one works.
The locking mechanism shown in the patent also looks "ancient", and is replaced by a more stable Jones underlever.

fuhrmann

Fuhrmann, I know Peter personaly and he put an incredible amount of work in this U.S. patent list and more anyone can consult this list for free, many thanks to Peter.
I visited the web that you mention and yes this is one of the survivers after the WW II like W. Brenneke who have his shop in Langenhagen. Furhmann, I agre with that that the patent is "different" from the pictured gun at E-Gun. I also not find info on this type of drilling in the Waffenschmied or Waidmannsheil issues that I have from the GGCA
Marc.

WowW This is the first time that I have seen PeterM's patent listing. I apparently missed it the first go around. Thank you Fuhrmann for including the link directing me to it.

Mark