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I have seen two parker VH grade guns in 12ga. with twist steel barrels and original to gun, has anyone seen one in 16ga. Would love to have one.
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I believe it is a Grade 1 instead of a VH, which was introduced in 1899 and always had "Vulcan" steel barrels.
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Nope, there was a thread on the Parker board the other day about a few VHs that left the factory (in a batch) with twist barrels. I will see if I can find it.
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Couldn't find the Parker VH/Twist thread but did find Vulcan grade with Damascus on page 256 of "The Parker Story:" "The barrels were always marked 'VULCAN STEEL' except for a few made with Damascus steel in 1917."
Couldn't find anything about Plain Twist in The Parker Story though.
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Many years ago I had a Trojan grade. Barrels were marked Trojan Steel, but the frame was marked 0 as I recall, may have been OV, not sure now.
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That's all well, Mike but the gun skeettx linked to was made in 1897, two years before Parker introduced the Vulcan grade. That's what I was referencing. I was not aware any V grades went out with welded barrels. Are you sure they weren't 1 grades issued later?
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The Trojan grade was normally stamped OV on the water table and the same OV was stamped on the barrel flats. On the water table the OV was usually stamped inside of a six-sided enclosure. The Grade 1 or PH had Twist Steel barrels until the P.S. Parker Steel barrels replaced the Twist Steel.
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c. 1916 1 frame 12g Trojan with Twist barrels. One of 40 ordered by Iver Johnson Sporting Goods, successors to John. P. Lovell, Boston. 10g VHs with damascus barrels were part of the order also. 
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Drew has the right information. The twist guns were Trojans, not VH grade. A couple of the Trojans have surfaced and are in collections. I am not aware that any of the tens have surfaced. The auction gun was most likely a PH, Grade 1 gun that was described by its appearance, not by its markings. It predates the VH by some time. There is at least one factory documented Damascus barrel VH, offered by Leroy Merz several years ago, but it was a factory rebarrel, not a gun originally made with Damascus barrels. It is in a collection. We would like to see pictures or details about the guns Ithaca 16 mentions.
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