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hello mal,
i should mention that the information i provided re o prefix is correct, to my understanding, re shotguns. i should not have jumped into a rifle query as i do not have any knowledge re lancaster rifles.
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Mr Martin-
Did Lancaster sell a lot of "bought in" shotguns?
If so, what kind of guns were most of them?
And do you know how "bought in" they were - completed by someone else, or in-the-white and finished off by Lancaster?
Thank you,
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I don't think you'll ever get a straight answer on that question OWD. Nobody knows what was brought in, how many or where they were being brought in from. Smallbore states in his books that he believes Osborne made the Lancaster body action guns (serial number with the 0 prefix). I'd like to know where he got that information too! Others speculate that Beesely made the guns. One thing is for certain..Thorne did have a factory, and did make guns. I believe all of the sidelock model A's were made there.
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Interesting. Thank you for the info.
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On a side note....I believe the only way to really know the origins of completed guns, un-finished actions and barrels and who the "house engraver was is to have access to the cash books. The books used by gunmakers to record who they paid for services, parts and equipment. I don't believe the Lancaster cash books survived time. The existing records really don't provide that much info. The records for Lancaster guns are owned by the rifle maker Ronald Wharton formerly of Rigbys (UK).
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OWD,
i do not have much further info to add re origins, but after many years of asking questions and searching for info,i understand the following. "o" prefix shotguns bought in complete.Other shotguns bought in the white from webley etc. some shotguns built by lancaster.
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Last edited by Mr W martin; 04/11/14 03:07 AM.
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Cool. I appreciate the info. I learned a little more about British shotguns today (and yesterday)!
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Roy, I had one,16, double triggers, traded it toTony Galazan 15 years ago. Thought the action was made in Germany, the rest all Lancaster. It kicked like hell and the triggers were very close together so my finger got pretty beat up on the second shot. 13 sticks in my mind, don't remember if it was the Mfg year or the serial #. SFQ
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