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Extending the forend hand farther effectively changes the angle of the line of your shoulders in relation to the line of the gun.

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Originally Posted By: Bob Cash

Hmmm.....32" Duck you say.
Hmmm.....13 5/8" LOP you say.
Hmmm.....Tank you say.

My kingdom for a normal LOP!






13 5/8"? Isn't that the same gun you had advertised a couple weeks ago with a 14" LOP?

SRH


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One and the same.
Truth be told, I find 14" to be a little short too.
Mine is as described. Other than the picture of my Duck,
my reference was regarding Buzz's gun and the Parker in my original post.
Gee Stan, lighten up a little buddy.

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I wasn't scolding, Bob. I was just confused as to what you meant. Still a little confused, but that's normal for me. confused

That is one nice duck/sporting clays gun. I remembered it because I liked it so much.

All my best, SRH


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No harm Stan.
I suppose I could have been clearer.
I seem to never miss an opportunity to post a picture of one of my guns,
even if a little artistic license is involved.

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I like your Duck too, Bob. I'm not surprised it has a 14" LOP. My gun has a PG and 13 5/8" LOP which was the typical pre-1953 Duck, I believe. Later models, on special order, could be had with English stock and custom LOP at whatever the customer wanted, for a bit extra cost, like your beautiful straight gripped duck. My gun is Full and Full in both barrels, and not what most would consider a sporting clays gun. It was built to shoot ducks and geese with 3" lead magnum shells and well suited for that purpose. They are wonderful old duck guns IMHO. It's just too bad we can't shoot lead anymore!


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Originally Posted By: buzz
...and not what most would consider a sporting clays gun...

Call me a glutten for punishment, I'll be shooting Skeet with mine tomorrow. crazy

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Extending the forend hand farther effectively changes the angle of the line of your shoulders in relation to the line of the gun.

That's what I'm talking about. Past the mount, I find my head further back on the stock giving me the impression of a longer LOP.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted By: DAM16SXS
Extending the forend hand farther effectively changes the angle of the line of your shoulders in relation to the line of the gun.


That can create another problem in itself, when it comes to heavy recoiling guns, and/or high volume shooting. When the angle changes so that the axis of the gun is angled in an ever greater way to the body, the butt has more of a tendency to slide across the shoulder pocket upon recoil. If it's hard to picture, think of the ideal as having the axis of the gun at ninety degrees to an imaginary line drawn from one shoulder to the other. Recoil would be straight back into the shoulder pocket. The more that angle changes, the more the butt slides on recoil.

I have seen such severe evidence of that in Argentina that one fellow was bleeding through his shirt three days after returning home.

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[/URL][/img] Bob: Here's a photo of my 'DUCK'. Notice the wood layout in the head and grip of the stock......nice and straight. Winchester carefully picked the wood for strength in these Magnum guns.


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I owned an FN 16ga boxlock with english stock for about a year. Nice weight and balance on the gun, but I couldn't shoot the thing. I was fine on the skeet field, but in a real hunting situation (translate: hurried) my finger would go to the rear trigger. I might as well have been using a single shot. I haven't shown much interest in straight stocks since. Anyone else experienced this?

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