doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com We'll be in for it now

King, I just went to the NRA Annual Meetings in my hometown of St. Louis. I think it was the largest yet, the ranks were filled with both young and old. It was, a good sight!

Ouch!! That hurt.

Ok I'll just go back downstairs and do some rust blueing now. Let me know when I can come back upstairs.

Yeah, I posted it before I saw your well thought out reply.

Consider it withdrawn.

No harm done.

Very true, very true.

Well...as long as I am here....

King, you have hit dead on. The Auntie movement has its modern roots in the 19th century, around 1840. However the German [Austrian?] author of Bambi was militantly anti-hunting, and his illustrated book was an international best seller between WW1 and WW2.

Disney wonderfully adapted the story to antimation, and the rest is the history which you cite. Walt set out on that project with an anti-hunting agenda, which the company keeps to this day.

Most interestly, in a recent conversation with tw, of this board, he did a survey in his workplace some years ago, to find out how many folks still had rural roots. That is, relatives or close people who still earned a l;iving from the land. Out of 173, exactly two people could claim that remaining tie.

He said when he spoke of cooking rabbits or hunting doves, both good ol' country traditions, that the employees looked at him like a man with two heads. Between the vastly changed cultural matrix, the unprecendented moulding of it by entertainment propaganda, and the desire of the prosperous classes for their own continued comfort and security against the un-prosperous classes, then that the world which we once knew and valued for its goodness is a fading shade.

The new electronic world will be as different as a two-horse farm wagon is from an eight-wheeled tractor. The same land [sorta], but a new civilization: for better or for worse. As a fellow named Wonko the Sane usta say around here: "I'm glad I'm old, so I won't have to live to watch all that buxxshixx." :~`)

Forget Bambi you can still see the anti-hunting stuff in todays cartoon features like "Open Season". Although I live in a city where the males are feminized my son is male and all male. He loves to play guns, wrestle, and compete. As long as he's my son I'll encourage him to do those activities in a sportsmanlike manner.

I have no need for a para-military firearm now but I may need one in the near future so I'm going to buy one this week in anticipation of the idiotic response to the madman's criminal killing spree. Additionally, I'm going to obtain a concealed carry permit in order if I ever encounter such a demon at the mall I can dispatch him before he hurts others.

Gentlemen,

My position on this subject has, for the most part, already been expressed by many here. I am responding to be counted among those who have expressed dismay at the notion that the "gun culture" had anything of consequence to do with this tragedy. First- I would point out that the perpetrator, I believe, only owned his guns for two months and if when he was suspected of mental problems by his professors had been properly examined, may never have been able to buy them. Second- the anti gun culture was definately involved here! They made the serious decision to mandate the campus be gun free and then failed in the implied promise to protect those on campus. It is my firm opinion that once this decision was made the college administration and campus police became directly liable for the deaths of the innocent students and faculty by their halfway measures. What they did compares to tying the hands and feet of some one trusting you and then taking them for a ride in a boat with one big structural flaw. I am furious of the lack of action taken by the police in this matter! To commit these unarmed people to this environment then stand outside waiting for the gunshots to abate is criminal! The very idea that those who promised to protect these students did not even enter the building until this crazy man had done his worst, is to me a betrayal simular to a parent abusing a child! And then for some to blame it on a "gun culture" to evade their own complicity in this event is shameful. I use as support for my position the surviving victims on the Virgina Tech campus, young men and women the very age of our troops in Middle East. Our soldiers are rushing through doorways into darkened rooms in attempts to save lives and bring peace, while here at home we tell them "you don't need to worry we will protect you"- then stand out under the trees and wait. This is the standard that we are to live by? They will tell us that the problem they have protecting us is what goes on outside the campus boundry, the city limit, or the state line. Does anyone really believe that once the anti gun culture has its way we will be inside and safe? Did you get or anthrax vaccine yet? Your lawmakers did.

Kurt

Even if he had been found to be mentally unstable he would still have been able to buy those guns by saying NO to certain question in the paperwork. That's
The only guy on this board who could have made a difference would be KYJon using this trusty AH Fox.

I might be wrong, but if he had been legally determined to be mentally unstable it would have shown up during the instant background check.