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There are also many paranoid musicians who take their ivory inlaid instruments in and out of the country and face loss due to confiscation.

There is a problem when you cannot take your own legally acquired shotgun or violin bow out of the country without having it taken from you. You will be guilty until you can prove that you are innocent, which may prove both costly and impossible. However, the current administration can facilitate the felonious export of illegal arms into Mexico, and ignore Congressional investigation. There is something much more effective than writing one's Congressman. Just stop electing anti-gunners.

Once again, Dr. Wonko is on the wrong side of an issue facing gun owners. I'm glad to see that one thing which causes him to lose sleep is criticism of the Obama administration. He must be sleeping like a baby... crying and shitting himself.

Stop electing anti-gunners?? The sheeple in the big cities have us out numbered, and brainwashed by Bloomberg's lobbyists and adverising flunkies. Hell, the networks won't even run NRA's firearm safety messages. I'm almost glad I'm a geezer, so I won't have to watch the Second Amendment go down the drain much longer. At least the local paper publishes my letters to the editor.
Come to think, the right thing to do with Ivory would be to tax the hell out of it, and use the proceeds to improve the farming community of Africa. Crop raiding elephants would pay for new water wells, etc.

Huh?

Yeah,we're all paranoid.Tell that to Mr. X who had a eagle feather war bonnet and other regalia that had been in his family for over 100 years and then one day the feds show up and confiscate everything. He had proof of ownership going back over 3 generations,including photos, and they still took it. Never did get it all back after 3 years of legal wrangling in court.

There is something much more effective than writing one's Congressman. Just stop electing anti-gunners.

HAHAHA and I thot you were gonna suggest shooting them!

edit: Yeah - don't write. It's WAY more satisfying to do nothing expect rant about the oppressed minority to other members of the oppressed minority, innit???? Nobody gonna call you on it there, eh? And your "don't let them see you" and put you on "the list" of gun nuts paranoia is safe too.

You def need to come to terms with reality. Elected officials don't GAF about gun owners or guitar owners either for that matter. Couple hundred people nation wide? Screw them! All they care about is whether or not the majority of their voting base is not pissed off enough with their crap job performance to not re-elect them. Nobody caters to gun owners, and the few that don't actively seek to cut you off just mouth some platitudes and do nothing - well, blame the liberals so they look like they were getting the hatchet too.

have a day

Dr.WtS

You have to understand, this is Wonko's senate and Wonko's president on the job. He will happily join in the bitching about these bozos he helped to elect, and complain that elected officials don't GAF about the electorate.
Maybe his don't, but, it seems to me one need look only as far as the recently relaxed concealed carry laws that have swept across the US to realize somebody listened. Might not have been to him, but, they listened to the rest of us.
The recently recalled politicians in Colorado (his camp, again) must be a fluke, no? Listening might have been in their best interest, if not ours.
What I can't understand is this country has elected very liberal presidents on three occasions-FDR, Carter, and Obama. None of the others could really be considered very liberal, save LBJ, and he wasn't elected, and got out before he screwed everything up anyway. But the other three losers did the same exact thing to the country-destroyed the economy. All three times.
When do the Wonkos of the world learn? Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over, and expecting a different outcome every time?
I question your sanity Dr. Sane.
Really.
Hope the inlays on the banjos you own are all Obama admin approved.



Best,
Ted

"or under an exemption document. . ."

Would this be a CITES permit?

If a hunter imported a pair of elephant tusks legally following a successful hunt after 1990, would his documentation be sufficient?

Has the follow-up rule been announced? In any rulemaking there has to be a comment period. I think all should be alert to that opportunity to speak in opposition to the new rules.

Curl

Those banjo inlays are mostly gonna be abalone or mother of pearl; not to worry...yet.

Well this all sounds like the Smithsonian might be a prime target for a raid. How funny would they find it if every major government type facility or major museum got raided before the first private citizen? Of course that is not they way it will work. Some poor snuck in Idaho is going to get busted for a ivory inlay in his guitar or a set of ivory handles on a old Colt. Worse yet it is only a matter of time before someone with fake ivory gets busted by mistake.

I for one don't paint all politicians with the same brush. My own Congressman, David Schweikert (R. Arizona),is a hunter and a target shooter.
He has stood by us on every issue that would impact our 2nd Amendment rights. Additionally he has NEVER lied to his constituents or mislead us and the people in his district are the type who pay close attention. I agree it's a shame we don't have more elected officials with his ethics.
I for one am sorry to see this issue which I believe is a real one with the potential to affect liberals as well as the typical conservatives who predominate the membership on this board become politicized before all the facts are in.
Jim