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However you cut it, another of your beliefs now is on record that four of your Supreme Court judges are not mainstream Americans, and unlike yourself apparently don't know right from wrong because they don't share your opinions.
By your measure, the American majority of citizens don't know right from wrong either. Idiots I think is your word for them and the president because they don't think the same as you. A conservative government would magically make the majority wise beyond words!
Obama is considered the most cerebral and eloquent American leader in a generation. Those attributes alone don't make a great president. He is a disappointment to me. With the GOP still not able to determine what it is, knowing what he represents seems more preferable to me.
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Who considers Obama the most cerebral American leader in a generation?
Having the gift for gab (with a telepromter ) does not a cerebral leader make.
For someone who you anoint as the most cerebral leader in a generation, watch him when he speaks off the cuff.
For someone who you anoint as the most cerebral leader in a generation, and a supposed Outstanding constitutional scholar, he has crashed and burned in the Supreme Court now 13 times.
and the list goes on and on, for the most cerebral leader in a generation.
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I don't think of participants as 99 per cent conservative, Ed. Americans generally share same values, conservatives and liberals. What skews perspective are those on the extreme edges. That's common to everything. The wilder ones at meetings are a delight to watch but come the vote reason usually prevails.
The peculiarity is drum-beating on gun rights, not that freedoms are diminishing at an astonishing rate in all other areas because of fears concerning public safety. Americans didn't say no way, no more when the Patriot Act allowed government to root into every human activity.
Everyone here, as you say, is for gun rights. We wouldn't be here otherwise. A call for greater vigilance and active participation to slow tightening of restrictions is common sense. A few members have chosen, however, to negate the citizenship and character of those who don't share their opinions.
mc earlier mused delightfully of a military-industrial complex---we need more humour, thanks---but I thought of how elegantly and strategically that those on the fringe have laboured mightily to divide us, a fifth column in service of the gun-grabbers.
Keeping our guns and fraternity together is more important than partisan politics.
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[quote=King Brown]However you cut it, another of your beliefs now is on record that four of your Supreme Court judges are not mainstream Americans, and unlike yourself apparently don't know right from wrong because they don't share your opinions. Response: They are definitely NOT mainstream Americans and are attempting to legislate from the bench with the purpose of circumventing the U S Constitution. And you can quote me on this anywhere you want! By your measure, the American majority of citizens don't know right from wrong either. Idiots I think is your word for them and the president because they don't think the same as you. A conservative government would magically make the majority wise beyond words! Response: Unfortunately the majority does now and they should have known 2 years ago. Obamas approval rating is in the toilet where it belongs. Obama is considered the most cerebral and eloquent American leader in a generation. Those attributes alone don't make a great president. He is a disappointment to me. With the GOP still not able to determine what it is, knowing what he represents seems more preferable to me. [/quote[/i] Response: "cerebral"  Did they legalize drugs where you live? This is that same idiot that claimed , among other things, that we have 57 States. He may be a disappointment to you but you don't live here and he's a disaster to the majority of us.
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The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.
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....beliefs now is on record that four of your Supreme Court judges are not mainstream Americans....
....Obama is considered the most cerebral and eloquent American leader in a generation....
....knowing what he represents seems more preferable to me. Maybe on a place like MisFires, we're all just vermin or some other such, but what about bo. What does he think of the Supreme Court. Do we know. Seems like they're useful idiots to him, bashed in a 'state of the union' while a couple members sit in the audience, backflip praise when ocare is contorted into law, misogynistic teen aged spin demonizing of the choice given to all women under the 'hobby lobby' decision. Does bo want them to uphold their oath and do their job, or does he want left wing legislating from the bench. 'Cerebral' and 'knowing what he represents', are you sure. Does he campaign on facts and issue or on emotion. Important because he never seems to be out of campaign mode. Please if you would, sum up bo's policy. Would you have a notion or two on the facts that he turns to for decisions and what do you 'know' about his goals. You must have clarity because you mentioned disappointment. It's not a box of chocolates, is it.
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However you cut it, another of your beliefs now is on record that four of your Supreme Court judges are not mainstream Americans, and unlike yourself apparently don't know right from wrong because they don't share your opinions.
By your measure, the American majority of citizens don't know right from wrong either. Idiots I think is your word for them and the president because they don't think the same as you. A conservative government would magically make the majority wise beyond words!
Obama is considered the most cerebral and eloquent American leader in a generation. Those attributes alone don't make a great president. He is a disappointment to me. With the GOP still not able to determine what it is, knowing what he represents seems more preferable to me. That may well be because three of the four dingbats out of touch with the American mainstream are females- one never tried a case before O-Bammy yo Mammy nominated her- the next dingy broad speaks fairly good Spanish, so of course that is a high point of qualification in our "dual-language oriented America of today"--and the last one, who should have retired at the same time Sandra Day O'Connor did, follows in the footsteps of both Louis Brandeis and Felix Frankfurter- At least Sandy O'Connor (good Irish surname, ey?)knows how to fly fish and ride horseback-- and what Irish Republican nominated her, wonder I-- Ronnie "Death Valley Days" Reagan perhaps? See a connection here, gang??? The only Justice I trust is Scalia--
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Similar references are common, Brian. I never thought of him as a constitutional lawyer, outstanding or otherwise. He gave his reasons for pulling back from overseas adventures and has laboured with public support to bring troops home, particularly with your own experience, what, five time re-deploying? As for speaking off the cuff, it's common advice from handlers to the eloquent for effect on particular occasions. Stentorian tones for others. Just for the fun of it, who do you consider the most eloquent or cerebral in the last generation?
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Everyone here, as you say, is for gun rights. We wouldn't be here otherwise. A call for greater vigilance and active participation to slow tightening of restrictions is common sense. A few members have chosen, however, to negate the citizenship and character of those who don't share their opinions.
Keeping our guns and fraternity together is more important than partisan politics.
King, your last sentence above is 100% wrong!. With friends like you and ed, who needs enemies? Just about everything else you've said this morning is lies. You twist the living hell out of what Jim said about our four extreme Liberal Supreme Court Justices. They are not mainstream and they do not operate as their job description requires. They continually see things in the Constitution which are not there, and attempt to subvert the clear intent of the Framers on subjects such as guns, religion, and abortion. To call Obama Cerebral and eloquent is stupidity. To attempt to convince us that the majority of Americans agree with that is dishonest. Brian laid it out for you. Obama is a stumblebum without a teleprompter, he knows nothing until he sees it on the news, he is reactive rather than proactive... and his reactions are generally wrong. His dismal approval ratings are only as high as they are because of Libtard idiots like you who would rather see the country go down in flames than admit that their first black (mulatto) president was a dismal failure. Again King, we're not the same here in Misfires. You and ed are among a small handful of "Misfits" who think it's OK to come on to a firearms forum and suggest infringements on our gun rights. You King, are the liar who LULLS gun owners into thinking there is no legitimate threat to our gun rights. You frequently bash the methods of the NRA, and suggest they follow your own failed solutions. You can't defend your character because you have lied about your position on our 2nd Amendment rights and a thousand other things. You are not like us at all King. You are really kind of creepy, and dishonest right down to your marrow. Of course you would think it mean and mischievious to have that all pointed out. Too bad. Maybe you and ed should go somewhere nicer where you could both lie and spew Libtard bullshit and stroke each other.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Ah, craig, thinking is hard work. Have a heart! I think Obama's legacy will be as a pretty good president for hard times, perhaps in the top third. Maybe even higher, considering disentangling from overseas, The Great Recession, extending healthcare and redistribution to slow inequality, environmental measures that put Canada to shame, dysfunctional governance unpopular with two of three Americans, and now using executive orders to stamp his brand on America. Politicians in high office get one kick at the cat: they either can go along to seek reelection or try to make the best social legislation in generations---and take their chances for a reputable legacy. Obama chose the latter. Two Canadian leaders in the last 60 years took the chance, and came out at the top in public respect. I prefer doers to those who oppose change.
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Everyone here, as you say, is for gun rights. We wouldn't be here otherwise. A call for greater vigilance and active participation to slow tightening of restrictions is common sense. A few members have chosen, however, to negate the citizenship and character of those who don't share their opinions.
Keeping our guns and fraternity together is more important than partisan politics.
King, your last sentence above is 100% wrong!. With friends like you and ed, who needs enemies? Just about everything else you've said this morning is lies. You twist the living hell out of what Jim said about our four extreme Liberal Supreme Court Justices. They are not mainstream and they do not operate as their job description requires. They continually see things in the Constitution which are not there, and attempt to subvert the clear intent of the Framers on subjects such as guns, religion, and abortion. To call Obama Cerebral and eloquent is stupidity. To attempt to convince us that the majority of Americans agree with that is dishonest. Brian laid it out for you. Obama is a stumblebum without a teleprompter, he knows nothing until he sees it on the news, he is reactive rather than proactive... and his reactions are generally wrong. His dismal approval ratings are only as high as they are because of Libtard idiots like you who would rather see the country go down in flames than admit that their first black (mulatto) president was a dismal failure. Again King, we're not the same here in Misfires. You and ed are among a small handful of "Misfits" who think it's OK to come on to a firearms forum and suggest infringements on our gun rights. You King, are the liar who LULLS gun owners into thinking there is no legitimate threat to our gun rights. You frequently bash the methods of the NRA, and suggest they follow your own failed solutions. You can't defend your character because you have lied about your position on our 2nd Amendment rights and a thousand other things. You are not like us at all King. You are really kind of creepy, and dishonest right down to your marrow. Of course you would think it mean and mischievious to have that all pointed out. Too bad. Maybe you and ed should go somewhere nicer where you could both lie and spew Libtard bullshit and stroke each other. Ah craig, see how King tries to bury that which is unflattering to him? TTT
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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