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nhunter #372917 07/17/14 09:41 AM
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wonder why untruths and personal attacks are tolerated on this fine forum?


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Point of clarification only, since the truth matters. "Sleeved by E.A. Lander"




I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.
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well that one certainly looks like it was done by old ed...actually looks better underneth than your picture from above. are you sure it is the same gun? please link us to your source for these pictures, so we can all see the same thing you are...


an speakin of pigs...if someone offers to sell you a pig in a sack...even though it may sound like a pig and smell like pig, open the sack and make sure it is a pig and not an armadillo!


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I had Ed Lander restock a #1 frame V Parker for me many years ago. The stock is beautiful and I shoot it for dove hunting. I got a deal on the price and a quality job. Whats wrong with that?


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Originally Posted By: ed good
well that one certainly looks like it was done by old ed...actually looks better underneth than your picture from above. are you sure it is the same gun? please link us to your source for these pictures, so we can all see the same thing you are...


an speakin of pigs...if someone offers to sell you a pig in a sack...even though it may sound like a pig and smell like pig, open the sack and make sure it is a pig and not an armadillo!


Proof positive means nothing to ed, Drew. Show him a link to those pictures and he'll only claim they were altered. Some gunsmiths do nothing but top notch work, and would never stamp chicken tracks to cover a sleeve joint. Some should not even ever touch a gun, period. Still others will do quick and cheap or very good quality and charge more accordingly. Apparently, ed has used Ed Lander to put lipstick on pigs for the lowest price so he can maximize his profits. Actually, it looks like maybe some of eds more recent torched beauties were done by another hand to save even more. Did you do that ed, and then attribute those bulls-eyes and burned metal to old Ed? Or did you find someone who works even cheaper? And DaveK's picture of the partly closed Parker so the lever stays right is very revealing. You can see that the dolls head is not fully seated and that the breeches are slightly open. Very crafty. Makes you want to go right to Guns International and buy one. Caveat Empetor.


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drew: well now, this last post got me curious, so i went on a search for parker ph 12 gauge sleeved. found the picture of the underside of the ed lander sleeve job shown above, where his name and addrsss is stamped on the barel flats, along with an indication that he proofed the barrels... curiously though, could not find the other picture reputed to be the top view of the barrels of the same gun. now i know old eds economy sleeving work will leave one with seam lines showing...but his work is not as unsightly as the top view picture posted here...so, if you would, please let us know the origin of that first picture you posted on this thread titled "Hideous butchery. Ed's master gunsmith". i am beginning think the pictures you posted here are from two different guns?

meanwhile, my search also revealed this:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/947805155/PARKER_PH_12_GAUGE_SLEEVED.htm

this is my listing on gunsamerica from 2009, for the only gun i ever had old ed sleeve. good news: this gun has won at least one state skeet shooting championships that i know of. bad news: i lost money on the deal and never have been willing to pay for another sleeving job, by anyone.

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Same green background Ed, and both Parkers. Took a lot of searching for me to find the match in order to attribute someone else's butchery to you, or E.A. Lander, or somebody.
It's 109 today in Phoenix so I'll go hose off the mud in the backyard now, and that's all the fun with you that I intend to enjoy.

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drew: well, ok, it might be the same gun, but i dont remember the work to be quite as crude as the one you first posted here and labeled it as hideous work by ed's gunsmith...in any event, guess 2 an 2 dont necessarily add up to 4 do hit sometimes?...would ask you to be a little more careful attributing shoody work to someone without absolute proof that they in fact did the work in question...

an as for the heat, i was in phoenix around the fouth of july a few years ago...i remember it was 120 degrees! this is why i stay in new england this time of year. high today was typical for this time of year. around 80 degrees! course next feb and march when it is just around zero here at noon, i will wish i was in sunny warm arizona...heard it is nice down by tucson in the winter?

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I have a Boss hammer damascus with tubes that are thin near the muzzle I think .018 I think .100 4 inches out from breech I bought it anyway.Maybe I should have maybe I shouldn't either way it's history.My theory is they only made about 1000 of these and I have one.I called Boss and asked how much to re barrel it and they quickly said it wouldn't be worth it.I could have sleeved it for $3000. before it left England or re barreled it for about $5000 but I'm not sure who from. I just passed on a Boss thumb lever sleeved $5000. I should have bought it but again that's history. I think I paid $9000 for non sleeved.Would it have been worth $5000.if I would have sleeved it????


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